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2922:– Citing physical books seems unproblematic to me, and Stewart's is one of the most popular. A reader who wants to verify the claims made or see more can easily find this book in their local public or school library. For internet archive book links to copyrighted sources, you may need to first "check out" the book before reading the content, hence the gray dotted lock icon, or for some books publishers have requested that the content not be visible at all (such links should probably be removed, leaving link-less citations or e.g. linking Google Books instead). But since this is a very old and static topic, we could certainly also link to freely available scans which would be just as good. For example we could link to Goursat (1904) 858: 2798:; we maintain that useful links do not appear before inline citation to Keisler 2012, and thereafter they revert again to being useless (at least for a time). This density of poor sources at the top of the article indicate us a top down, post hoc attempt to provide any source at all for content earlier created but unsourced. (It also suggests a dedicated period of bibliographic work, wherein presenting bad links within the citation was perceived as being better than presenting no link at all, for these critical opening paragraphs of the article.) 388: 378: 357: 324: 2802:
in the Further reading section.) Its appearing both does a disservice to readers, pointing them toward a source that is not being used in formal maths education, and then a disservice to the encyclopedia, creating a sense of less-than-seriousness-of-approach, at the beginning of this very important article. As noted, use of this source appears to have been the result of dedicated period of naive, rather than academically informed editing.
1098:) into "D-notation", that is both natural and easily recognizable. I have also added a sentence in the beginning of the section for attributing the notation to Arbogast, and saying that some authors (not "many") use improperly "Euler's notation". This improper use of "Euler's notation" must be mentioned since some people may search for it, at least those who learned it in Knowledge, where it appeared in a edit of 178: 315: 1069:, you say """The established fact is that many people use the phrase "Euler's notation" for naming this notation""" -- please justify by providing references. According to what statistics? Do they understand what they say? "Arbogast's notation" is ok as a title, since it is indeed a notation of Arbogast. This is not orignal research, this is a known fact. At least according the literature I checked. 2727: 812: 473: 148: 578: 2860: 2816:
editorial perspective that sidelining dedicate, good editors is a reasonable cost for avoiding the hassles of reverting vandalism. (But note, there are easily applied tools to ID likely vandalism; it is not possible, yet, to improve the article, as I ask, apart from skilled editors such as the two of us. And as we cannot, we must ask you.)
931:, I am not asking to you to decide, I am asking you to provide sources based on which you reverted my edit. Knowledge should not invent names. A source that attributes the notation to Arbogast is currently cited in the very first sentence. You say something justifies your revert, but it is not clear what. 2786:
No links (square bracket or related markup removed), or an added disclaimer in the inline citation text noting the valuelessness of the link to the inline citation (see below), or replacement links that actually take readers to the suggested maths content supporting the text, or more carefully chosen
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I'm saying this article seems like a fine Knowledge article. Like most of them, it could use additional work. Arguing about whether it ticks off some boxes on a made up checklist (a poor proxy for article quality) is a total waste of time. Addressing the specific criticisms raised here isn't going to
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Just as I predicted it. The article has some unsourced paragraphs during I was adding the citations. Not to mention, they are also some parts that is not understandable per criterion 1a, for example the partial derivative part. Also, the history section, to me, is somewhat not related, as it mentions
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Specific justification, (1) Given the wealth of scholarly web material on basic mathematics, there is no reason to use cartoon guides to STEM content—certainly not as a preponderant source in the opening definitions of this fundamental maths article (Gonick is a maths citation that belongs, at best,
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Could you please provide a reference to the relevant statistics of Scholar Google which justifies the "Euler" name? Common usage by whom? How the statistics were collected? On the other hand, since it is Arbogast's notation, in the sense that he invented and popularized it, it is a sufficient reason
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An alternative to all of the above is that the the article be returned to a lower restriction level, to allow for open scholarly editing (realizing that such comprehensive, even if specific, changes noted are burdensome). But it is not in our power to change the protection status of the article, or
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General. Currently, at best 3 of the first 17 inline citations links are actually useful to readers, in that only the 3 convey readers to a separate site that either supports the content appearing (in support of WP:VERIFY), or presents further material allowing deeper explanation and understanding.
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I have absolute no opinion whether this is notation is due to Euler or not, and even whether Euler used it or not. The established fact is that many people use the phrase "Euler's notation" for naming this notation, and Knowledge cannot change this fact, and must not try to change it. This is why,
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I agree that Google Scholar must be considered with care. It is reliable for establishing that a terminology is uncommon. But it is not for comparing "D-notation" and "Euler's notation" because both phrases can have other meanings. Nevertheless "D-notation" seems less ambiguous. This is the reason
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section is awfully wordy and detailed for an article that's supposed to be about the concept of the derivative in general. It's a bit odd that we have 10 paragraphs of text that take up about 2 screens and invoke mappings between tangent bundles, but we don't have anything on maxima and minima of
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I was scribbling something in midnight having something in mind with my own thought process which is in obstacle always. Even when I recall / revisit myself whether it is right what I was thinking I couldn't correlate. I couldn't think stably as it's long years since my academic time. Maybe with
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I am unable to provide to decide which is the most common name among "Arbogast's notation", "Euler's notation", and "D-notation", but it is certainly not "Arbogast's notation". This justifies my revert. However, there are so many things that are named after Euler's, that "Euler's notation" would
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is a disservice to readers, in that it distracts and disorients, and so wastes valuable educational time; and again, it casts the encyclopedia in an ill light. The links to sales sites should clearly be verboten. I would also say the remaining sites should also not appear, or that their inline
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For applying the chain rule to a sum, a product or a fraction, one has to know the partial derivatives of a sum, a product or a division with respect to each of their arguments, and to use the chain rule for several variables. So, the proofs of these formulas using the chain rule are much more
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This article would benefit significantly from an effort to add a gentler informal or semi-formal description at the top, with less jargon, more pictures, and accessible to a wider audience. (A better history section would also be nice.) Other than that, this article seems mostly fine, and this
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citations should be accomplanied by a disclaimer that stops the reader from clicking on the useless link. ("The links appearing in the preceding citation identify the book but otherwise contain no accessible content relevant to the material presented in this Knowledge article.")
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Sorry, but I do not understand what point you are trying to make. Please stick to concrete criticisms/suggestions about this article, and try to make your comments as clear as possible to help other editors follow along. Note that this talk page is not a general-purpose forum.
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I moved this comment to a new section and archived the extremely stale 10-year-old comment it was nominally a "reply" to. I can't really make much sense of this new comment or figure out whether/how it was supposed to relate to the previous one in any way.
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Again, per Knowledge usage, this is not the attribution which motivates the name; it is the common usage. This is the fact that "Arbogast's notation" and "Arbogast notation" are very uncommon (less than 20 hits in Scholar Google) that justifies my revert.
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By the way, none of the listed terms is ambiguous, and there are all generalizations of the usual derivatives. So, they must be added in the generalization section (if they are not there) with some explanation of the relationship with usual derivatives.
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Could you please provide any evidence on the edited page that Euler used or popularized the D-notation for derivative, or that it is a "common name" (among who?) Otherwise, could you please restore my edit? Alexey Muranov (talk) 12:07, 2 October 2023
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Sorry, but could you then please provide any justification that "D-notation" is a "common usage"? By whom? And if you keep a redirect for "Euler's notation", could you please explain what makes you think that this is "Euler's notation" in any sense?
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Edit requests should have the form "please change X to Y"; if you would to suggest particular source substitutions (in a concrete way, by proposing the concrete addition of a specific reference in a specific location), you are welcome to do so.
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I'm looking for the possibility of a scenario about the notation part: should this section mention after the higher derivative? In my opinion, the notation describes many different notations of differentiation, including the high order.
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functions of a single real variable|derivatives on manifolds|covariant derivative|and|Lie derivative|generalizations|generalizations of the derivative|a less technical overview of the subject|differential calculus|other
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single-variable functions. And within that section, there's less emphasis comparatively speaking on Jacobians than I would have expected given how much I've seen these concepts covered in courses at different stages.
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the history of how the calculus was made; maybe this could be expanded or merge to any other sections, or just delete it literally? I do think there are lot of problems in this article. Pinging more users: @
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will show the change in addition to the end state.) I think "real numbers" seems fine, since the context in this page is single-variable real functions. I think a more general discussion belongs at
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would you consider un-protecting the page, and we can see if the vandals might have given up by now? It's not clear to me why this page should be permanently protected against anonymous editing. –
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An title must be chosen for the section. "Arbogast's notation" is excluded because, it is very rarely used, and as such, choosing it would break the fundamental rules of Knowledge, in particular
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reassessment is IMO a waste of time. Please feel free to add more specific citations if you want. All of this material is easily verifiable and discussed extensively in the cited references. –
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If that's the case, maybe this section can be summarize in at least one, two, or three paragraphs? Also, most of them are unsourced, together with the usage of first-person pronoun.
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Agreed: I wasn't suggesting adding an exposition on anything beyond the case of a reals function of a single real variable, just adding a brief note that it generalizes. --
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As said in my last edit, hatnotes are only for disambiguation, and must not duplicate the dab page and/or the infobox. So, for this article, the only acceptable hatnote is
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There are much better sources available. For example, the epsilon delta definition of a limit should be cited to a standard textbook on analysis, such as Bartle.
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Sorry. I cannot comprehend your words and some symbols in your writings? Can you tell us in more detail? And what's with those confusing notations, such as NP
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I couldn't relate 1/2 with 21 by mathematics, and as however in all higher dimensional matrix also, A.A = 1. So I give all my chances to the serieses like
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Matrix(A) . Transpose Matrix (A) = 1. It is the agreed one as everyone knows of it. And the matrix concepts falls on the linear algebra & part of the
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gets into a better shape. I am little wise with chemistry and it has its own limit on its applicability, so it can ignored a bit when it goes beyond its
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an author who studied mathematics at Harvard and has spent decades writing and co-writing well-regarded expositions of science, mathematics, and history
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x - y. Like how we have (a+b) x (a-b), and a, b - vector with same direction but the conjugate (a+ib) x (a-ib). Maybe I am wrong as I am not wise with
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A reputable, scholarly secondary open source for the same material (with checking of content to new source, not just hot-swapping the citations).
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Significant portions, including whole sections and subsections, of this 2007 listing are missing inline citations; the article thus does not meet
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template. Instead to have many terms in a hatnote, these terms must be added in the disambiguation page, when there are not already there.
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which contains the stirling numbers of the first kind and the forward difference operator to compute nth derivatives as series. Thoughts?
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I also do not able to comprehend multi dimensional theory so far in my conceptual mind. So he maybe little clear. But in the wrong place
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I am actually not sure if Google Scholar statistics should be considered a source for a terminology, but it will be better than nothing.
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Repeated references to Gonnick 2012 (The Cartoon Guide to Calculus)—SIX appearances in the critical opening sentences of the article—
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gives 5 criteria for choosing the article title. Neither "Arbogast notation" nor "Euler's notation" satisfy the two first criteria of
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Bottom line, we can only see the issue of a locked-in-as-weak article, and do nothing about it except write these long requests.
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I just created, where you can work on draft changes. (Or create an account so you can edit any semi-protected page you like.) –
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I would like to add a brief bit about how Issac Newton called the derivative "the flowing quantity" and the notation he used.
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And they way he believes it is either we may have to subtract instead. I mean instead of x + y having minus (-) here -: -->
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Thanks to you and to XOR for working on the article. I hope the article will be improved, to the benefit of the readers.
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Can you be more specific about which source you would prefer? If you would like, feel free to copy wikitext to the page
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Specific justification, (2) Presenting URLs for any citation that takes a young academic reader nowhere of value, e.g.—
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I have checked in the following link, that the slope of the line can be calculated like this as mentioned in the page,-
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make the article substantively better, and there are many more valuable improvements that could be made (but also don't
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source for a fact that is encountered well before a course on real analysis should be a textbook on real analysis.
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So at the end, you find the value which is the area of triangle multiplied by 2, not the surface area of triangle.
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complicate (in the whole) than the direct proof. The mention of the chain rule in two variables is therefore
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I think the guy simply says i is equals to -1. And I think he doesn't believe mutlti-dimentional concepts.
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is more generally applicable. I'm not sure whether it would be better inline or as a footnote. --
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need, at least, to be disambiguated. So, I'll change the heading to "D-notation", with a template
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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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The classical derivatives of real (complex)-valued functions of single real (complex) variables.
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Umm... if the problem is about the ambiguity meaning, why can't we just extend the usage of
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in all aspects, so we will be in a position to face consequences by all sort, the good the
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it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a
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replacement sources that make the useless inline citations and their links unnecessary.
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Even I couldn't understand anything out of it over here as they way been said over here
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The lead shouldn't give a complete list, just enough to demonstrate the ambiguity.
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I was about to say something before, but got deviated. Here it is — the way how
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During GAR, I removed the hidden online sources while improving the article.
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DX - This is where I could start, where I can put my integral result with .dx
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I've trimmed it back to something more reasonable. It still needs sources.
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to be; as I said it's a fine article). Knock yourself out though. –
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Some questions from me regarding the improvement of this article:
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by some IPs and users. That is why the article is protected.
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Signed, a former prof, and former registered editor here.
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mathematical proofing and our best logical augmentation
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How about Calculus texts such as Thomas that go into
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project is the best we survive or yield to the next—
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