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140:, and other geometrical notions that, although related to the subject of the article are not required to understand what is a derivative, and are of no help to understand, for example, that the velocity is the derivative of the position. Moreover, the article appears to be based on the strange idea that, understanding a notion is easier if the definition is explained before to be given. My opinion is that understanding a definition is impossible if this definition is not given before the explanation. This article is also based on another strange idea that not using the common terminology helps understanding (replacing "limit" by "limiting value", for example). As it is presently, the article is, maybe, useful as auxiliary textbook for US students of elementary courses of mathematics, but it is confusing for all other readers, and in particular for all the readers that are looking for accurate information. 3920:
an unpleasant look daemon hovering nearby. The daemon is like a person, but has wings, is less than 4 feet tall, and stays in the air like a humming bird. Upon meeting your gaze, the daemon grins, waves his hand, and two massive copies of the great wall of China appear. One of the two walls obstructs your view of the road ahead. The other wall obstructs your view the road already traveled. You can now only see the parts of the road a scant 10 feet in front and behind. The daemon now asks you a question: "Of the parts of the road you can see with your eyes, are there any sharp bends, or sudden turns?" If you answer honestly, and the answer is no, then the road you are walking along is differentiable where you currently stand.
350:. The proper definition of the reals need the notion of limit (or the equivalent notion of least upper bound). The definition of a continuous function involves the notion of limit. Thus in the standard logical model of mathematics (Zermelo-Fraenkel, with axiom of choice) and with the standard definition of of the reals as the smallest complete ordered field containing the rationals, there is a unique definition of the derivative. It may be possible to define it without using limits, but limits must be replaced by another notion which is not really simpler (least upper bound or shadow of a non standard real number). In any case mentioning such approaches in the beginning of the article is confusing for most audience. This, and 194:
what the derivative is good for. My point of view is that the article should not make that assumption. The article should instead assume that the reader does not know what a derivative is and does not know why a derivative is useful. This is why the article builds slowly to the definition: It is attempting to explain to the reader what kind of information is stored in derivative and why the definition of the derivative is the right one to capture that information. It is probable that the article could be better at this. It is possible that rearranging the article so that the definition came first and the justification came later would be an improvement, but I'm doubtful.
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sentence from a detached point of view, heck even from a grammatical point of view: it contains the word "change" 3 times, the word "average" three times, and the word "function" twice. It is a mess, and, sadly, it is the cornerstone of the article because that sentence purports to offer the core definition of "derivative". I have a strong feeling that if you had an expert writer craft it, one who is gifted in the art of words, that the concept of derivative could be defined in a much more user friendly manner. But I've said my piece. I'm out.
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must contain an open interval containing the point of derivation) and at line 61 for the definition itself. Other readers may come to this article to understand some related terminology, such "derivative with respect to a variable" which is used in the lead, and apparently not defined in this article; presently the article is of few help for them. The definition of the derivative is preceded by explanations which, before the definition, may be useful only for people using WP as a textbook (but
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years. Calculus was discovered relatively lately, and the reason, I think, is because it is an intrinsically difficult subject. It poses difficult problems philosophically, mathematically, and computationally. Don't be dismayed if you find calculus difficult; that just means you need to continue working at it, same as everyone. But even though it is difficult, it is surmountable. You can understand calculus! It will take effort, but it can be done, and it is very rewarding.
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f(a))..." a is still a point, and f(a) is the same as 'graph of f" at a. While you can write (a, f(a)) like coordinates, it only means f(a) around a. Yet now the slope is different that 'graph of f' at a (though close.) Continuing "...and a nearby point on the graph..." A nearby point on the graph? That treats (a, f(a)) as coordinates. Con't "... for example (a + h, f(a + h))." Sure enough, f(a+h) is a coordinate.
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of another curve of y =(x+dx) at a point where we seize x or y=x deliberately and introduce delta x OR when function y = f(x) changed to y=f(x+Δx). The value of x has reached to its maximum value instead of unlimited when a curve y=x doesn’t continue anymore at a point where we introduce delta x or dx as y=x and y =(x+dx) are two different types of curve (two diffrent functions).
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AC also increases and ultimately SECANT when x increases. Our goal is to bring dx, dy and AC to zero (not away from zero either positively or negatively - Point C has to be on the curve) or secant to tangent by reducing them close to zero but here dx heads toward zero but dy and AC increases when x increases on axis mathematically.
1950:"The derivative is a fundamental tool of calculus for studying the behavior of functions of a real variable." This doesn't explicitly define what a derivative is. The definition should be something alone the lines of "A derivative of a function is the instantaneous rate of change of the function with respect to its variable(s) 4326:
also changes. I do not have faith on negative values, we may oblige by norms of limits within an ordinal by doing reduction to its count, that's how the negative limits works out in real calculations, and this is how, I hope, as per my reading on Mathematics Today magazine of MTG Group considering Limits.—
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Similarly, dy is the small vertical change in y, therefore, we take the sum of all the small vertical lengths not the whole slice or y-coordinate(s) from zero to its value on the curve when we integrate both sides of the equation of dy = 2xdx but it turns into function of x or area under the graph –
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Although the difference in the length of dx and dy can be noticeable clearly on the graph if we examine the triangle ABC at two different points for a gradient (dy/dx), say when an angle BAC = 0.1 degrees and 89.9 degrees on the curve but UNIT CIRCLE is the best example for observing the change in an
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I would add that the reason why the sentence above contains "change" three times, "average" three times, and "function" twice is because it is precise. When the words in the sentence are interpreted correctly, then the sentence is a faithful rendering into words of the mathematical definition of the
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I challenge ANY OF YOU to find 10 people with full time technical careers (or 100 people off the street) and I doubt even one person will know what that sentence is trying to say without having to read it multiple times. After reading the first paragraph of this article, I am going elsewhere because
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I have tagged this section as disputed because it is self-contradictory: in the first paragraph, the fluxion and the dot notation denote an infinitesimal quantity, while in the last paragraph they denote, as usually, the derivative. Moreover, the first paragraph (including the example) is unclear and
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Correct. Encyclopedias are books full of information that can only be understood by people that already know that information. They are designed to be read by academics with at least a bachelor's degree in that particular subfield for preparation. Oh wait, that's not what an encyclopedia is at all.
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the other night that the only institutions that have survived the last 500 years unchanged in their essential nature are universities. So the inherent structure of knowledge, rather than the tendency of privilege to be used to preserve privilege, is probably the explanation for the academic system --
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Many readers of this article either come from another article through a wikilink of simply need to be recalled of the exact definition. The present state of the article is highly confusing for them: The definition of the derivative appear only at line 56 for the hypothesis (the domain of the function
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The proportionality of both the angle CAB and dy with x are in contradiction with the proportionality of x and dx in the triangle ABC after probing the equation of dy/dx = 2x beyond its derivation on a graph of y = x2. When x increases; dx decreases, dy increases, and angle CAB increases. This means
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I didn't want a book on calculus, only to understand the concept of a derivative, in plain language. I am questioning the "target audience" on this article, which seems like it is directed towards experts. Encyclopedias are meant to be informative, right? Consider your target audience. Read that
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Currently, text is "The derivative of y with respect to x at a is, geometrically, the slope of the tangent line to the graph of f at a..." This presents 'graph of f' as a curve, which exists at point a. Continuing "...The slope of the tangent line is very close to the slope of the line through (a,
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Since functions determine measures, the Radon–Nikodym derivative of a measure determines the Radon–Nikodym derivative of a function. While it is strictly more general, there are no difference quotients involved. One surely needs limits of sequences somewhere in that, but that's a different concept
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However, I think our biggest disagreement is about the purpose of the article. As I see it, you view the article as a reference for information about the derivative. Please correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I think you are making the implicit assumption that the reader has some understanding of
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I think that the notions of graph and slope will be familiar to this article's audience. The audience may be familiar with secant and tangent lines, but maybe not. I would expect them to be least familiar with limits. I might be wrong. My view is limited mostly to America and American education,
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Imagine that you are walking along a long and winding road. After awhile, you stop shuffling your feet, and simply stand and look around. The road can be seen stretching far off into the distance; eventually disappearing on the horizon. You now notice a humming noise. You look to your right to find
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RISE = dy = 2x and RUN = dx = 1 (always constant) in a GRADIENT of 1 in 2x which we obtained from the Eq1 of dy/dx=2x /1 at any point on the curve when there is no difference between secant and tangent – No idea how do we get dy/dx = 2x.dx but above said contradiction may be due to the introduction
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I am not sure that limits are necessary to define the derivative of a real function of a real variable. For instance, the Radon–Nikodym theorem does not need limits, only open sets, and it proves the existence of derivatives. Or one could take a Zariski tangent space approach as follows: Consider
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As per Mathematics, in a ratio, considering the denominator value, when we do multiplication or a division, the denominator only increases. But in physics we have laws like directly proportional and in-directly proportional, so we quantify the value and go for the next calculation and thereby unit
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In mathematics, if the domain of a function is not what can be determined by inspection that domain must be specified explicitly. If the domain is not specified explicitly, the reader should assume it can be determined accurately by inspection. Looking at your formula, there is no specification of
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Pick any two points A and B close to each other on the curve of y =x. The coordinates of A on the curve are (x, y) or (x, x). Add Δx at A as usual. When x increases by Δx, then y increases by Δy. The x changes from x to (x +Δx) while y changes from y to (y + Δy) or f(x) to (x+Δx). Thus the x and y
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Some students may be misled by the nice animated figure of the difference quotient into thinking that the formal definition of the derivative is given in terms of limits from the right, in which case the existence of the derivative of f at x_0 would not imply continuity at x_0, but only continuity
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Euclid once said, "There is no royal road to geometry". It is the same way with calculus; calculus is intrinsically a very difficult subject. Much of the mathematics that is taught before calculus has been known in some form for five hundred years or more; some topics date back over two thousand
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I am trying to learn derivatives. I consider myself a pretty smart person because I am a fluent programmer in Visual Studio. However, I have never needed calculus in life, hence I completely forgot it. So here I come to this article hoping to learn about the logic of a derivative. Instead I am
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Another remark: The heading of the sections are confusing. The subject of section "Differentiation and the derivative" (without its subsections) is "Geometrical interpretation" and the subject of the subsection "Rigourous definition" is "Geometric interpretation of the definition". It cannot be a
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I disagree with your view of the article. I do not think that many readers of this article come here to recall the exact definition. Instead I think they come here because they do not understand the concept of the derivative. This is why the article starts slowly, building up motivation for the
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When we take some sample derivatives d/dx(x^2) is 2x and d/dx(x^3) is 3x^2. It means that differentiation gives the mirroring capability. To maintain atomicity and to avoid any internal transformation or any collateral damage dy = dx must be maintained. All the objects whichever has life over the
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I don’t agree that we are talking about a technical convention. In the explanation of any topic within any subject (or the teaching of that topic) there is a logical progression from the elementary to the introductory to the core and ultimately on to an advanced understanding. Most of what came
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Further, integration is the reverse process of differentiation. Although delta x or dx is ignored during the process of derivation of dy/dx becaue of their small values but we can’t ignore them in the process of integration which makes a lot of difference in summation. They can’t be disappeared
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That is exactly the problem: plain language is not convenient to describe mathematical concepts. This is the reason for which mathematicians have introduced many words and new meanings for older words. Even that is not sufficient; therefore the introduction of formulas. Personally, I would have
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So dy = dx general equality must be examined in any sector of science. Particularly in Telecom. I mean Atomicity of Living Organisms must be considered. If it is not also Transformation Process must be speculated with R^2 Norms. Birth ratio cannot end in extinction as it can be seen that it is
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Please state clearly where you think that the article is wrong. About the existence of non-differentiable continuous functions, the article gives two examples of continuous functions that are not differentiable at the origin (the absolute value and the cubic root function) and one example of a
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I agree that all alternatives to limits require concepts that are at least as complicated. I am coming around to your viewpoint that the beginning of the article should discuss the standard definition of the derivative, and other definitions, if they are mentioned at all, should be near the
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Initially select a function. Then quantise it and don't draw a graph based exactly on the function, but instead create a near match constituted of many of its derivatives. Then find an algorithm which finds almost perfect matches of derivative fragmentations which simulate the function.
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I recommend reading a textbook. Because Knowledge is structured like an encyclopedia, it is not especially pedagogical, and therefore it's very difficult to learn mathematics from Knowledge. You will find a textbook easier to learn from; they're written to be learned from, after all.
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That is the nature of what a function means to be differentiable. A road is differentiable everywhere, if, no matter you are on the road, the daemon can limit your field view so that no sharp bends, or turns are visible on the piece of road just in front of you, and just behind you.
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When condition Collinear not met, then the matter is within R^3, meaning Euclidean Space, by dividing the possibility in to TWO, just like how in any triangle, by a line (derivative) there can be two right angled triangle formed and all else angles,- the ratio is precise.
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and it's colored by my own preference for geometry. I do agree that the geometric viewpoint taken in the article will not be much help to readers who are more inclined to, say, physics. Newton's motivation was physical, so perhaps the article should discuss some physics.
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derivative. If you compare the sentence and the definition closely, then you might be able to see the similarities. Mathematics is inherently a logical discipline, and we rely on both equations and formal language to communicate that logic accurately to the reader.
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Derivatives show us how fast something is changing at any point. For example; the gradient of the graph of y = x at any point is twice the value of x thereat. The process of finding the derivation of a gradient / slope of a function y=f(x) or y = x is as follow.
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ABC is an infinitesimal triangle made by dx, dy, and hypotenuse or slope of tangent where point A and C are always on the curve. Length of AB = Base = dx, Length of BC = Perpendicular= dy and Length of Hypotenuse = AC. Angle CAB or BAC is the slope of a tangent
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The IP User is exploring our article on differentiation without an adequate familiarity of the concept of the domain of a function. That problem will be easily rectified when they read my reply and look at the article about the domain to which I blue linked.
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in the Knowledge article formula is restricted to be positive. That means that you would be able to look at the road ahead, but never look behind you. In that case, the absolute value of x is differentiable at zero, which is not correct. If were standing at
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The problem is that when the writer says 'slope at a,' a is an x,y point. When he writes (a, f(a)), it first continues to refer to a as an x,y point, but later a seems to become only a point on the x axis. How else to interpret '(a + h, f(a + h))'?
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Maybe it is pragmatic, so tried all least possibilities that they shouldn't have done possibly, as per necessity, it would have been done or carried out. Frankly speaking we should give up. So we could feel flying not the pragmatic things.
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Thanks for that.. I actually did check out the Wikibooks links to the various textbooks, but they weren't much help either.. But I understand what you're saying.. maybe if I actually bothered to pay attention to high school math lol! --
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is that, however there as,- one stays as lock, the ordinal, there exists a continuous changing ordinal with it the whole thing is precise by. And it is completely another division of mathematics, other than the way, you says about
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may define either square, but may be ambiguous only when the domain and the codomain are equal, and a multiplication is defined on the codomain. In this case, the notation should be clarified or avoided. Also, do not confuse
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than the limit of a function. It is therefore an approach to derivatives which does not involve limits of functions. Since the Radon–Nikodym theorem is important, I have added a link to it in the "See also" section.
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So, I agree with the IP user that the article must be edited. However, fixing the issue would require to rewrite completely the article. As, presently, I have not the time for that, I'll simply tag the article.
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There is no such thing called by negative limits, rather it's so called, left sided or left-hand limit and right sided or right-hand limit. The way you mentioned, I hope you're referring to left sided limit.
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The derivation of the natural relationship of a gradient of 1 in 2x at any point with y=x or dy/dx=2x is still unbeknownst to illuminates - Anyone who is in agreement with all above unless satisfied by logic.
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In this sentence, I have linked the words which have an accurate mathematical meaning which is not exactly the same as their usual meaning. I am not sure which sentence is easier to understand for the layman.
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I'm not saying to explain it in dumbed down language, but is it too much to ask that when you present advanced topics like this that you can assume the reader is not already a scholar in the said subject?
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Radon-Nikodym derivative is not the derivative of a function, but the derivative of a measure. Thus this is not an alternative definition, but a generalization. Your "Zariski tangent space approach" seems
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Yes, the Zariski tangent space approach is OR. I hope I did not give any other impression. I am not proposing that we include it in the article. But I do not see why it should be true that
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are the obvious reasons to remove the mention of generalizations and other approaches of the derivatives in the beginning of the article. I have already removed them and I will do it again.
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Anyone who clicks the link on limits will be saved from that misapprehension, but a well-placed word on that point in the caption of the figure might save someone from needless confusion.
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Take y=f(x)=constant, then x=f(y)=δ(y) [an axis change leads to a dirac delta on y=x and this is not differenciable due the discontinuity, therefore y=f(x)=constant is not differenciable.
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seen those in the last 7 years -- rather than bcz of their existing under other names), the ability to tackle a given article depends importantly on at least two factors about the reader:
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rigourous definition (what is a non-rigourous definition?) because of the number of geometric terms that do not appear in any correct definition (graph, tangent line, secant line, slope).
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You are right, but the reader is not supposed to be aware of these technical conventions. Presently the article is polluted by lengthy explanations of why one considers derivative (
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earth is collinear on sphere (Earth). I mean δ = 0. Forget about the death. Its natural disaster. But Consider any signals on & around us. it supposed to obey dy = dx equality.
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The purpose of this article isn't to teach calculus, but to describe what it. This description may involve complex vocabulary and mathematics; it's not meant to pander to beginners
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Maybe this can be tried with x . y rather, however so it is not,- "neither f(x) nor Y". And about f(x,y) I can't talk about it at all, as per me it is completely hypothetical —
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Not done: This would be correct, but is unneeded, as the reader is not supposed to know what is a difference quotient; knowing it is not helpful for reading the formula.
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Y' touches Y for which axis x quantity reduced by x' amount. And always, there could be a derivative up-to the situation, till f' (f dash) cannot be obtained 😉
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The article uses notation like g^2 to denote x↦(g(x))^2. While this is common notation in some branches, it is also common in other branches to read this as
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needed for understanding a particular article in this WP. Rather, its purpose is to serve non-native speakers of English whose English vocabulary is small,
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anyone who first encounters the concept of "function" in WP will need a textbook -- if not an instructor -- in addition to WP, to understand any plausible
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this article has no value to me, it doesn't aim to teach to an outsider, it only aims to lecture to its own students at best, and worst, its own peers.
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Why to do this? In some machines it's easier to control binarily the graph of many derivative fragments (limited lines) than the original function.
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If feels ugly to me to have the function subtracted from the limit, and it doesn't matter which one you subtract from since it's an absolute value.
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where we consider the one-sided limits. The derivative is only defined if the left derivative and right derivatives exist and have equal value. --
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Because of this I've removed your new section. I'm still open to improvements in the article, but I don't think the new section is a good idea.
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I don't remember where I saw this. It's possibly an exercise in one of Karl Stromberg's textbooks on analysis, but I don't have a copy handy.
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I disagree with your assertion that the article starts slowly: To understand correctly the first sentences, one has to understand what is the
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100 books put example of funtion continous but no differenciable, to absolute valor, please use other example, for this case: y = |1-|x||,--
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is well defined and commonly cosidered in mathematics. So an encyclopedia, and specifically Knowledge, must not be restricted to the case
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I have added a formal definition that includes the definition of the involved limit, and renamed the section "Differentiation" as
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In the "generalizations" section, there should be information about "functional derivatives" and the "calculus of variations"
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slightly reduced with the count 7 out 10 in its ability level. Science on Higgs principles must take this consideration.
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In 2D if the condition is Collinear means, its a straight line. Lets take the Straight line form with Slope m and assess.
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Ladies, Gentlemen, please let me say you that we can define derivative without infinity's or limit's notion, as follows:
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I do not know much around f(x,y). But I know one among the problem comes under the section un-computability, so called
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overwhelmed with technical jargon that only someone who already is fluent in calculus has any hope of understanding.
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I agree with you. I edited the first sentence so it know describes a derivative as the instantaneous rate of change.
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However, the mention of Euclidean space is irrelevant here, as the Euclidean structure is not used. I'll fix this.
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On the other hand, in the section that you have removed, the only technical notions that appear are the notion of
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the vector space should be two dimensional, one dimension each for the positive and negative directions, and for
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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definition, and treating carefully the difference between the derivative at a point and the derivative function.
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it is difficult to distinguish the true definition from intuitive explanations. For knowing that the increment
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I agree that the article was not completely specific about the tangent line. Is the current revision better?
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Can we change the part inside the limit of the definition of a derivative from |L - /h|<ε to |/h - L|<ε?
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by homogeneity). I am not sure how to prove or disprove this because I don't see any way to find elements in
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anyone who first encounters "derivative" here will need a textbook or instructor to understand any plausible
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is more than enough and definitely you'll be with me. And as the way you stated from, what I feel, in about
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angle CAB (say 0.1 and 89.9 degrees) of a triangle ABC for dy and dx and the comparison of their lengths.
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in some open set only if the function actually is itself affine. (There is a way out of this by replacing
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coordinates of B on the curve are (x + Δx, y + Δy) or (. Now the instantaneous rate of change is given by
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That means x must & should be INTACT with its multiples of INCLINATION. In other norms it should be NP
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of this function is all values of h except zero. "All values" includes both negative and positive values.
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is generally applicable here. If you think normal spacing is that horrible, it should be changed at the
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Incessant fiddling with spacing to make stuff appear more to your own preference is never appropriate.
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My guess is that this article requires citations in order to correspond with sources. In addition, why
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Having a function f(x) and 1st derivative ∂f(x), the integral can be calculated using the formulation:
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the domain so the reader should not entertain any apprehension that it excludes negative numbers.
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no idea how but summation of vertical lengths on a graph gives vertical length only not curve?
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The length of dx = dy when Angle CAB = 45 degrees The length of dx < dy when Angle CAB : -->
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Yeah, this is original verifiable derivation, original research I suppose, peer reviewable.
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The reason for all differenciation to stop when the differenciation has reached a constant.
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It means all the points on the same line. So surface of Triangle ∆ cannot be obtained.
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I am hoping that someone will make explicit that you must consider negative values of
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baffles me! Still it would be nice if someone could dumb it down enough to write up a
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Thanks for making attention to the inquiry. About Numbers, I feel theories given by
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There is no further differenciation when the derivative has reached a constant.
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I agree that this is a useful formula. It appears (with different notation) at
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forever and should resurface during the process of integration or summation.
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Beautiful! I'm amazed. Do you have a reference for your statements about
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The following formula is in the Knowledge article on derivatives:
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template level, and not in the many thousands of individual uses. –
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is a finite set of unordered pairs of strings." - this is the
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As part of this Article, only R^3 should be mentioned.
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3525: 3478: 3474: 3466: 3462: 3454: 3444: 3434: 3429: 3426: 3425: 3424: 3382: 3378: 3375: 3372: 3369: 3366: 3363: 3360: 3357: 3354: 3351: 3348: 3340: 3337: 3334: 3330: 3326: 3323: 3292: 3288: 3285: 3282: 3279: 3276: 3273: 3270: 3267: 3264: 3261: 3258: 3250: 3247: 3244: 3240: 3236: 3233: 3224:and the limit 3217: 3216: 3193: 3182: 3179: 3163: 3160: 3133: 3130: 3107: 3104: 3103: 3102: 3101: 3100: 3056: 3051: 3018: 3017: 2994: 2991: 2988: 2966: 2961: 2912: 2909: 2870: 2867: 2840: 2837: 2836: 2835: 2813: 2809: 2806: 2802: 2797: 2794: 2791: 2787: 2764: 2760: 2736: 2732: 2707: 2704: 2701: 2698: 2695: 2692: 2689: 2686: 2683: 2680: 2677: 2674: 2671: 2668: 2665: 2662: 2659: 2656: 2653: 2633: 2630: 2627: 2622: 2618: 2614: 2611: 2591: 2588: 2585: 2582: 2579: 2576: 2573: 2570: 2567: 2564: 2561: 2558: 2555: 2533: 2529: 2525: 2522: 2519: 2516: 2513: 2451: 2448: 2445: 2433: 2430: 2403: 2400: 2379: 2378: 2371: 2324: 2323: 2315:Added archive 2293: 2290: 2275: 2274: 2242: 2241: 2230: 2227: 2221: 2218: 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3787: 3783: 3779: 3775: 3771: 3767: 3763: 3759: 3758: 3753: 3749: 3748:A Thue system 3745: 3741: 3740: 3739: 3736: 3734: 3731: 3728: 3727: 3719: 3718: 3717: 3716: 3713: 3710: 3708: 3705: 3702: 3701: 3694: 3693: 3690: 3687: 3685: 3682: 3679: 3676: 3673: 3670: 3664: 3663: 3662: 3661: 3657: 3653: 3647: 3643: 3639: 3635: 3631: 3627: 3626: 3624: 3620: 3616: 3612: 3608: 3600: 3595: 3592: 3589: 3586: 3583: 3578: 3575: 3572: 3569: 3566: 3563: 3560: 3556: 3552: 3545: 3541: 3537: 3533: 3529: 3526: 3524: 3521: 3519: 3516: 3513: 3510: 3507: 3504: 3498: 3497: 3496: 3495: 3491: 3487: 3472: 3437: 3433: 3423: 3419: 3415: 3411: 3410: 3409: 3408: 3404: 3400: 3396: 3380: 3373: 3367: 3364: 3358: 3355: 3352: 3346: 3338: 3332: 3324: 3321: 3314: 3309: 3306: 3290: 3283: 3277: 3274: 3268: 3265: 3262: 3256: 3248: 3242: 3234: 3231: 3222: 3214: 3211:parameter to 3202: 3198: 3194: 3187: 3186: 3180: 3178: 3177: 3173: 3169: 3161: 3159: 3158: 3154: 3150: 3146: 3143: 3139: 3131: 3129: 3127: 3123: 3119: 3115: 3105: 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3640: 3636: 3632: 3628: 3605:— Preceding 3603: 3597: 3596: 3593: 3590: 3587: 3584: 3579: 3576: 3573: 3570: 3567: 3564: 3561: 3557: 3553: 3549: 3517: 3514: 3511: 3508: 3505: 3502: 3483: 3470: 3435: 3431: 3397: 3310: 3307: 3223: 3220: 3212: 3197:edit request 3165: 3135: 3112:— Preceding 3109: 3093:BramStoker's 3092: 3091: 2933:BramStoker's 2932: 2931: 2928: 2921: 2917: 2914: 2882:MOS:STYLERET 2876:Joel Brennan 2872: 2849:— Preceding 2846: 2842: 2501: 2497: 2493: 2464:— Preceding 2435: 2412:— Preceding 2409: 2405: 2383: 2380: 2355:source check 2334: 2328: 2325: 2298: 2295: 2276: 2243: 1964: 1949: 1941: 1918:— Preceding 1913: 1903: 1899: 1896: 1893: 1890: 1887: 1884: 1880: 1877: 1874: 1871: 1868: 1862: 1819:— Preceding 1816: 1813: 1796:Arthur Rubin 1791: 1616:— Preceding 1613: 1610: 1607: 1604: 1601: 1598: 1595: 1592: 1589: 1586: 1583: 1580: 1577: 1537: 1477: 1472: 1453:— Preceding 1423: 1419: 1415: 1414: 1410: 1390: 1360:— Preceding 1286:Charlie Rose 1248: 1242: 1234: 1228:prerequisite 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Talk:Derivative
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Knowledge is not a textbook
D.Lazard
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16:51, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
Ozob
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02:42, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
D.Lazard
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16:17, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
Ozob
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06:23, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
WP:OR
WP:DUE
D.Lazard
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08:58, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
Ozob
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16:28, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
Hadamard's lemma
Sławomir Biały
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