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correctness" when in fact it is just fairness. But I don't expect a person with a problem like that to believe in the difference between real fairness and fake fairness (i.e., "PC"). To attribute my motives to something fake rather than real fairness is its own form of personal attack, but I know that it honestly seems like the "true explanation" to you. All I can say is that, believe it or not, yes, there are people who are truly not distracted or offended by seeing someone with Down syndrome. That probably seems like a lie to you, but it's honestly true.
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I notice the article has a hidden note that there is a consensus to keep the image. This talk page clearly shows that's false. I see a lot of people complaining about the image for various reasons, and a single user brow-beating people into giving up on it. That is obviously not a consensus, so I
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Belated update: Recently I saw some usage of the term "drill motor" that supported the suspicion that it's considered normal or proper terminology by some experienced workers, while sounding odd and unfamiliar to others. It seems likely to me to be a UK vs US terminology difference, with some usage
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I've removed discussion of memory effect with NiCd cells because this is not a significant issue. Although memory effect exists, it is widely misdescribed. In fact it is a fairly rare phenomenon, and not a significant issue. It has however sold equipment, which may explain its sudden popularisation
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and the bits that it drives. "Drill bit" is used to make clear that you mean the cutter not the power tool. "Drill" is also often used to refer to a drill press. ("Take this over to the drill and drill and tap me some lifting holes.") It's true that it's silly that we use words in such overlapping
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I've heard the term drill motor used on both sides of the Atlantic, primarily by skilled tradesmen. I first learned the term when taking high school shop courses. The instructor was quite adamant about using the proper terms for tools and such and made it clear the term drill bit was wrong (and
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I understand the threat Clean-keeper, thanks for not invoking your rage. I also understand your attempt at personal attack Three-quarter, that it must be me who is seeing this picture the wrong way. This discussion however needs to be kept in a reasonable tone. I guess I will need to provide this
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Agreed. I've edited that section to suit (quicker than explaining here plus I had some woeful spuling errors :). Push and shove the remainder to suit. Thinking about what you've said, I think this page should have a small (stubbish) section on hammer drills as a type, with a {{main|hammer drill}}
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Interesting: "Die Abkürzung SDS besitzt mehrere Bedeutungen. Ursprünglich wurde das System unter der Bezeichnung Steck-Dreh-Sitz von Bosch entwickelt und später unter der Bezeichnung Spannen durch System weiterentwickelt. Heute benutzt Bosch auf internationaler Ebene den Begriff Special Direct
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I thought it was an intentional comical gesture, like when uncyclopedia writes an article about hats and shows a picture of a penguin wearing one, or about nuns and shows a mongoloid nun. Like a Monty Python roll: And here is a Downs boy with a screw driver. Lucas 15:06 28 october 2009 (CET)
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It's no attack, just a neutral statement of fact. If the person using a drill in a photo is pink, brown, or purple, or has Down syndrome or doesn't, it is only a distraction from the topic of drilling if the viewer has a problem with it. It is unfortunate that that is smeared as "political
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redundant). The historical record on usage is unclear, but I vaguely recall my grandfather, who was both a locomotive engineer and a highly skilled metal worker, using the term drill motor for what we often today refer to as a drill ,or electric drill, or cordless drill or...
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I have comprised a section on impact drills. These are commonly called impact drivers as well, but by definition they are drills. I believe these should be included under drills as it is a type of drill and does many of the same jobs as any other drill.
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There are only two sets of images that are duplicates of each other: drill presses and the "process schematics" (i.e. the first two images). I'd say the very first image should go and the second drill press image. Otherwise the rest seem very relevant.
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Are you kidding me?! He is using a battery powered drill (not an electric drill, this implys a drill plugged into a wall socket). It is superfluous to wear protective gear when using such a tool. Can I remove this; what is the general thought? MHDIV
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I recently came across an online “manual” written for airframe repair technicians in which “drill motor” is used to refer to the power source for manual drilling. They weren't entirely consistent with such usage, but it seemed to predominate. See
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Why does the word 'press' appear at all ? It is quite clear what is meant by a 'radial drill', 'pillar drill', 'bench drill', 'electric drill', 'hand drill' etc. As for 'wheel brace', that's a tool for removing the wheel nuts on a car !
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Knowledge (XXG) is a good idea badly implemented and provided on an awful platform. I am seeing en.wikipedia.org. I wish I was seeing uk.wikipedia.org. Oddly, it's the only bit of the web I don't want to work with globally !
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I'm going to have to agree with 3/4-10, I've never heard of the term "drill motor". Everyone I've worked with in the midwest has called it a drill. Moreover, aren't most drills marketed as drills and not drill motors?
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I've removed it because he's not using a drill. He's using a cordless driver. Sure, most such tools are multi-purpose, including that one, but it's a poor illustration for the concept of "drill" if he's not using it
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So what? This is an encyclopedia, not a safety lecture. You should not look here to figure out how to safely operate tools. Some of these articles are so overloaded with safety stuff; take for example angle grinder.
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I love the picture of the kid using the drill. You can clearly see the drill, but the picture is dynamic rather than static. It's a much more interesting picture than just a "here is a drill" picture.
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Terminology aside, I edited the geared head drill press section and added a picture of the drill press in my shop. I'm hoping to add a picture of a radial arm drill press soon.
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I agree with your points. However, I fear it is only a matter of time before a certain someone reverts the changes and reincludes the image citing a non-existent "consensus"
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I made this change again. I don't think it's controversial, except to the person who's apparently trying to make that boy Knowledge (XXG)-famous. 21:24, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
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If the kid's "mental status" distracts you don't look at it. I won't comment further into your disgraceful comment as there is a very real potential I might be blocked for
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Hmm someone is messing with the drill page. Someone wrote hahaha u like head and I deleted it from the page but they keep on messing with the page. Take care of it plz ty
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I hate this picture of the kid using the drill. It is totally stupid and the kids mental status distracts me when reading. Please replace with a decent picture.--
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I really think there are more uses for the word "Drill" than a Radiohead album. This should probably be a disambiguation page rather than a redirect. --
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depending on type. We have a link to hammer drill further down the page, so I'd like to put that link under masonry drill if they are the same thing.
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vocabulary does its own thing regardless. In the mid-Atlantic U.S., "drill" is frequently used ("is" vs "should be") to refer to both the portable
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after years of rarely getting a mention. Anyway, its incidence is lost among the noise of NiCd failure, which is of course a widespread issue.
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No, although they serve a similar function - rotating the drill while banging on it as you put it - they achieve this in quite different ways.
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is the generic term (mine is a Ramset Rotary Hammer Drill) by all means change back if I've got that wrong. I put roto-hammer in as an aka.
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article with a better "Drill" picture myself to get rid of this blatant attempt at political correctness. Thanks for your feedback.
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Not to be pedantic about it, but the correct term for the powered portable form of the tool being described in this article is
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Agree with Clean-keeper. Your comment only shows that there is a problem with your reaction to the image, not with the image.
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not a good illustration for this article for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with the person holding the tool.
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System." The source given in de.wikipedia.org does not support any of that, as far as I can see at a quick glance.
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I disagree. I'd rather see a high-resolution image of an actual construction worker using a drill than some kid. --
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I think this article has too many images. Should they be removed, or put in a gallery? It looks kind of messy.
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I belief that the Acronym SDS actually has German origins stecken-drehen-sichern (insert-twist-secure).
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I edited the radial arm drill press section and added some pictures taken at a client's machine shop.
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The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for speedy deletion:
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He is not wearing eye protection, which should always be used when operating power equipment.
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More importantly, isn't the kid holding the drill by the bit that spins on the end?! --
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I added a shortish bit on hammer drill with a link to the main article. Also changed
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BTW, I never refer to a drill press as a drill—too vague and easy to misunderstand.
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I wholeheartedly agree. I'll even beat you to the punch and remove it myself. -
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You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. —
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Posting these from Wizard's talk page; will try to add stuff later from them.--
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quit wikipedia back in June 2011, so maybe the change will stay this time
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why is the rotary hammer drill page the same as the section in this page?
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Continued the rewrite and in the process split drilling material off to
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Compressed air is often used to drive drills in factories and shops.
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Whoever keeps trying to make this kid famous has showed up again.
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to describe the tungsten tipped bits - but the drill itself is a
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https://www.aircraftsystemstech.com/2017/06/hole-drilling.html
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Magnetic Drilling Machine from BDS Machinen GmbH, Germany.jpg
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I've removed one of the lead images. (The one with the kid.)
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Re "drill motor," never heard that particular combination of
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have ignored the hidden note. (except to remove it also.)
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I just couldn't bear to leave it where it was, though. --
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Could this fit into the article. Is this a drill press?
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ways, but whadya gonna do? BTW, good photo addition.
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Plz lock the drilling page someone is messing it up.
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