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constituent country of the Netherlands? it doesn't make any sense. I have searched a keyword for the dutch empire lifespan, indeed most of them says it ends in 1975, but most of them don't even recount the event of the Kingdom charter which happened in 1954, the charter established equal status for the remaining colonies of the Netherlands, and of course New Guinea was an exception, it was still a colony around the same time. So when does it really ends? when suriname gained independence and became republic, no significant change happened to the kingdom status except its losing a territory. In 1986 Aruba gained status aparte and seceede from the Netherlands Antilles, and 24 years later the Netherlands Antilles dissolved, Curacao and Sint Maarten gained the same status as Aruba, while the BES became Netherlands muncipality, it was the last significant changes in the entire Empire's history.
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Guiana. I changed 'Dutch Guiana' to 'Suriname', because the only colony in the Guianas, possessed by the Dutch after World War II was Suriname. I'd also like to point out that Dutch Guiana as a colony or country has never existed. Surinam has always been officially known as such or as Suriname, in both Dutch and English, the colony was often unofficially and semi-officially referred to as Dutch Guiana in the 19th and 20th century, in an analogy to British Guiana and French Guiana.
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suggests a much larger formal and factual state control over VOC and WIC activities and colonial possessions than was factually the case, even though the Dutch state, the Republic, was ultimately responsible and accountable for lots of things (including committing colonial atrocities) the VOC and WIC
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is categorised as "American people of Dutch descent", but it's not mentioned let alone supported anywhere in the article. More importantly, even if we find sources for the claim (which I find likely, because it's a Dutch surname), is there any reason to claim that their existence is a direct legacy
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I recently made an edit to this article. It was in the "introduction" or "preface", the fourth paragraph, the second sentence. The sentence reads: Nevertheless, major portions of the empire survived until the advent of global decolonization following World War II, namely the East Indies and Dutch
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I don't see how the fact hat FD Roosevelt was the only US president to serve more than two terms or that Belgium won its independence in consequence of the 1830 revolution are likely to be challenged. Moreover, I checked some of the claims at random and saw that they are supported by the linked
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I have noticed that around this december, the infobox and the sub section states that the Dutch Empire ends in 1975? for what reason? does the independence of Suriname as republic suddenly changed the empire status while Antilles was still around having the same status as suriname when it was a
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I find it strange that the article makes no mention of the Dutch dominance of North European ship-building in the 16th and 17th century. Many ships built in their yards were for customers in other countries. The Dutch not only invented new types of ship, such as the
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was a lot "earlier". Without further explanation or sourcing, this is a very arbitrary assertion that is inappropriate, especially in the lead section that should summarise the main body, where this claim is not further
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The Roosevelt sentence is not about whether FDR served more than two terms; it is about the entire sentence claiming that Martin Van Buren, Theodore Roosevelt and Franklin D. Roosevelt were of Dutch descent. Only the
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However, this change was reverted by user Davidelit. I'd thought of bringing this up here, because Dutch Guiana never existed and the right name for the colony they possessed at the time is Suriname.
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Clearly, the Dutch colonies relied on long-distance maritime transport. You can't do that without ships – and you may well need customised designs to meet the requirements of lengthy voyages.
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a direct legacy of Dutch colonialism). This link needs to be established by RS in order for the whole sentence to have any added value, otherwise it's an irrelevant random fact.
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If anyone would assume that the Dutch empire ended in 1975, please state your opinion here before we're reaching a concensus here's what you might wanna see as references:
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There is no mention to colonial times other than superficial mention, no mention of slavery. No mention of traded Africans, and plantations. Biased and not factually true
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is non-trivial, and it appears that it is not addressed anywhere else in the article either. What is meant by "empire", "earliest", "wealthiest", "nations" etc.? E.g. the
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articles. Finally, the lead section should summarize the article, so that - in a good article - it shouldn't have any inline citations at all.
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The Dutch were among the earliest empire-builders of Europe, following Spain and Portugal and one of the wealthiest nations of that time.
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colony existed, and not from post-1674 migration (which includes a lot of other Dutch-American families whose descendants are
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in Europe). This is a fundamentally colonial topic, as the infobox and categories show. Dutch historiography prefers
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The union lasted just 15 years. In 1830, a revolution in the southern half of the country led to the
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did. I also see in English-language literature that "Dutch empire" is often written with a lowercase
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after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be supported by inline citations.
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In summary: of all the examples you've given, I had a good reason to demand a citation.
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ruler of country X" is a notoriously challengeable claim), but Knowledge (XXG) requires
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I concur. This aligns with the precedent set by the French example, as well as the
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I just removed all the "citation needed" tags you placed here one year ago.
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of the Dutch colonial empire? I just checked, and it seems that indeed the
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Even in Dutch documentaries from that time you can see it was 'Suriname':
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should the apologies for the colonial past be mentioned in the history?
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should the apologies for the colonial past be mentioned in the history?
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article never does, and he is not even categorised as such;
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article claims this explicitly with RS to back it up. The
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Is none of this covered in sources used by the article?
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