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This article takes an overly North
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When I moved the page from FRED the common usage seemed to be predominantly ETD, since that time I have reviewed the literature and it appears EOT (not EOTD as the drive-by editor changed it to) has become the government and industry standard. Page should probably move to simply "End of Train Device"
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Of course the source material would say that it was flashing. But for people working the trains, its commonly called the f***ing rear end device. Part of the reason this name got picked up is because the FRED made the caboose obsolete and took away jobs from people. So of course they got a little
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As a kid playing around on the RR tracks, we always used to hide after the train went past in order to avoid being seen by the camera on the flashing end of train device. After reading this article, I feel duped by an urban legend. It doesn't sound like there's any camera that's used to record
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FRED/EOT are NOT equipped with cameras as of 2009, however many new locomotives (and many older locomotives are being retrofitted) with a camera in the operating cab. These cameras are for liability protection in the event of a train/motor vehicle grade crossing incident. They are also used to
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FRED is a term only used sporadically by rail fan magazines, never by rail companies. The main reference attached to this article calls it an ETD with the FRED as a alternative among a whole list of other names. Also propose losing the slang nickname "Wilma" as it is also a railfan only term.
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