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902: 566: 545: 434: 413: 380: 249: 444: 962:. Biased sources like think-tanks are NOT academic sources. Their goal is to advocate for their policy positions, and they do this by generating and publishing "research" which supports their positions. They don't objectively report on a situation; they publish only information/research which supports their position(s); they'll never publish research which runs contrary to their policy position; using such sources DIRECTLY risks UNDUEly 278: 776: 671: 755: 650: 325: 894: 1047:, and doesn't show how the upper-middle class is the fulcrum around which cuts for the rich are paid for by hikes on the poor. And it can't illustrate the politicians' proposals or how they all tilt their trade-offs around the 97th percentile. I agree that data can be made to say different things, but are you claiming that the data on the two charts is in fact actually biased in such a way? 219: 681: 576: 371: 1009:
No. (to your first question) As I tried to say above but maybe didn't, the same data can be made to "say" different things or support opposing views depending on how you present it. The standard idea of how to lie with statistics. (Why not go back to 1930 when the top tier rate was 90%? How about
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I notice that across our "Economy of..." articles, in the infobox, we tend to use the IMF's GDP estimates for 2022, as opposed to the actual figure for 2021. We don't even mark the figure as an estimate, and IMO it seems more encyclopedic to use actual figures even if slightly older. I've reviewed
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Yes. The problem with them is that they are not unbiased scientists who are describing the tax policies, both of them are advocates for certain types of taxation policies, as should be completely obvious from the title of their book. Their think-tanks/advocacy organizations are not valid sources:
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states, "scholarly monographs ... are usually the most reliable sources. However, some scholarly material may be ... controversial within the relevant field...." Is there any reason that this specific data itself is controversial? Have there been any other instances of historical graphs excluded
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I !vote for 3 - both; the more info we provide to the reader the better, IMO. I think many people are familiar with the news of "previous estimate of X quarter growth restated" so they will understand the inaccuracy, even though +/- 's aren't included in the estimates.
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Do you at least agree that the charts present nothing other than historical data? Of course the authors have a point of view, and I agree the specific data from the first of the two charts could be construed as supporting their position.
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because of the political opinions of the scholars who produced them? The charts are the work of the professors themselves, and weren't produced by any think-tank.
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representing their positions in OPINION situations, rather than taking their position in proper balance with others as presented by Independent Sources
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If you want a graph of tax rates, the US Federal Reserve System has many publications and would be a much more neutral source for this info. ---
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Proposed tax plan payment rates by income group as a percentage of income, including mandatory health insurance, of four
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the archives and seen no previous discussion of this, but one may have taken place on another page that I've missed.
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Do you think they are inaccurate or misleading, or otherwise unworthy of inclusion in the Taxation section?
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by nationality). Forbes' List of high net worth individuals/billionaires helps but this is different.
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This page keeps getting vandalized and I am tired of doing cleanup. It should be semi-protected.
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there are no think-tanks listed; that's because they fall under Self-Published Sources
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I've requested it to be semi-protected and it has been! Thanks for the heads up!
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The Triumph of Injustice: How the rich dodge taxes and how to make them pay
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Total tax rates by income percentile in the United States, 1950-2018
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pre federal income tax when the top tax rate was obviously 0%).
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List of large equity holders in the USA by beneficial owners
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Use most recent estimate, or slightly older actual figure?
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cites 73.6% of GDP (2015 est.) and US treasury department
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I suspect however some TRILLIONAIRES/families are missing
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In the infobox, for the GDP figures, what should we do?
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at the time (July 2, 2014). There are suggestions on
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List both, and designate the estimate as an estimate
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