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Buckingham Fountain pavilions built in the 90s had already set the precedent of "just build them and see what happens." I agree that there should be a well-researched article or description of the legal restrictions on buildings in Grant Park. I'd like to put that together since I have all the original decisions, but it seems to me it should be in the main Grant Park article or possibly a standalone entry. It seemed quite extraneous for this entry to go into the lengthy background on building restrictions just to (falsely) conclude that the pavilions don't violate them. In fact, it seemed like "protesting too much." The entry already reads a lot like a press release, and that's why I thought cutting the entire section was the best option. One idea for wording in this article might be to replace the entire section with something like "The pavilions, like other Millennium Park structures, may violate the
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Montgomery Ward height restrictions." What's left unsaid in that is that the height restriction is, in fact, ground level according to the Ward decisions. The Flanagan essay doesn't cite any source for the mysterious 40-foot claim. The Ward decisions established that property owners on the west side of Michigan Avenue have an easement for light and air across the surface of the park, and that this easement would be disturbed by any building above ground level. A 1952 decision determined that the emergency exits from the Grant Park Garage were
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The reason I care whether it is included or not is that, I believe, it is likely to improve most readers understanding of the subject of the article. I don't have any idea how much electricity 14 Energy Star houses use (i did try to find out). But I do, like most people, have at least a vague idea of
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Your caption tweak works for me, thanks. At the bottom edge of the photo from the Aon building you can see the white fabric roof of the Harris
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Thanks - I agree and used the 4th image in the article, but had to reorganize the article so it had a section it fit in. I like the new structure of the article better - it eliminates some repetiton it had before (design started in 2001, construction started in 2004, etc.) was all in there twice (one
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is a reliable source, but just gives average prices for electricty by state. The problem is that you have to add the total electricty production of the north and south pavilions (16,000 plus 3,840 kilowatt-hours), then do the math to find out how much their output would have sold for in Illinois in
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I've again removed the utterly superfluous Background section, because it exists solely to prove something that is demonstrably untrue: that buildings under 40 feet or something are not forbidden by the Montgomery Ward decisions. They clearly are, but that decision is not self-enforcing; some land
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Thanks for the link to the great legal review Dennis McClendon! It will take a while for me to read it, but it seems to be just what we have needed. The last paragraph of the Background section will need to be rewritten (and perhaps some of the other Ward material tweaked), but I do not think the
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