Talk:First lady - Knowledge

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vice president (though responsibility for White House hospitality would be inappropriate). However, though the duties of facilitating official head of state visits or whatever it is national first ladies do obviously don't apply, what happens if the governor of a state has no wife but does have a daughter/niece...? I've checked and it seems that generally they are passed over and there is no first lady, but is it nonetheless possible in semi-official etiquette to refer to the closest female relative as the first lady of the state in such circumstances (for reasons of popularity or whatever)? It can't be great for a state to be first-lady-less. Either way, could this be clarified in the article?

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because she is the first lady in the processessional line. By being the First Lady of the realm, she enjoys the perquisits that come with the job, but she doesn't take the title of First Lady because she has her own and doesn't need any others. Now I am unsure if there are no wives of the Dukes if the eldest Pricess (sister of the King) would take the position. Of course if the King marries, then his wife joins him in the processional, and therefore there is no First Lady of the Realm.

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by a grand jury, and also the 2nd to be an official U.S. Rep. to the U.N. (after Eleanor Roosevelt). She is one of the most powerful women in the world, and she could be the most powerful person in the world come Jan. 20, 2009. I couldn't believe it, but she also appeared in world history books for her work on health care and diplomatic missions, ect. During her tenure she represented the U.S. in about 100 countries abroad by

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as Bill Clinton joked. I'm not sure they really belong here since they seem to be said informally. I guess there could be a alternatives subsection? However, since First Dude does in fact re-direct here, i thought it deserved a mention. As a sidenote, I was originally looking for First Dude the racehorse which just came in second at the Preakness stakes today.

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Anyway. I have added in some of the examples you state, but some of your sources are not up to scratch. As "first lady" has become almost a dictionary term within American English, English language versions of websites sometimes use it as such; and google translator often translates "first lady" when

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I added a sentence at the end of the Origins paragraph after the sentence that a male spouse of an American head of state might be called a "first gentleman." I wrote that possible alternatives could possibly be "first dude" as Sarah Palin called her husband, or maybe even "First Lad" or "First Mate"

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The term is used quite commonly in Anglophone republics like South Africa, taking their cue from the oldest Anglophone republic (the US). Since South Africa is a presidential parliamentary democracy, where the political system is very close to the British one but with the person with de facto role of

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Hi, I'm wondering if this section shouldn't be changed. As of now, for the most part it is just listing of translation of the term "first lady" and "first gentleman" into other languages. I think maybe those should be removed, and only some cases that say anything more apecific about First Suppose's

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refer to 'ALL spouses of heads of state'. It is originally and primarily used in and about the United States. It is seen in the media of other countries, in reference to American politics or lightly/humorously/satirically about other countries' officials' spouses, and in some places may be becoming

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First Lady of the United States, but in general she is not that exciting compared to – say – Betty Ford, Eleanor Roosevelt, Nancy Reagan, or Hillary Clinton from a historic perspective. Would it be possible to remove one of the Laura Bush photos, and possibly add photos of other current and historic

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That comment has no place here. Your comment is the reason that the Knowledge "user-edit" system is fundamentally flawed, and it's the reason that people will soon look at this "💕" as being "worth every penny they paid for it" unless we see some serious changes. By the way, Hillary Clinton was not

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question. If I understand you correctly, you are proposing that either "first gentleman" have an article of its own, or it be dropped from this article. IMHO, it is a fairly accepted part of the wikipedia way that when a topic deserves a paragraph or so, but not an entire article, it is covered in

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According to Fins, Dr. Pentti Arajärvi is officially referred to as Dr. Pentti Arajärvi, not the First Gentleman (a term that I find higly affected). We've already established that Dennis Thatcher was not the First Gentleman of Great Britian. My point is, that if this is an article on "First Lady"

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Regardless of wether you like her or not, she should be in here. She has been a huge part of history in both good and bad ways; she is the first first lady to hold public office in the US, was the first one to be appointed to official positions to create policy, as well as the first to be suppeanaed

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I think we should remain cognizant that the very use of the term will also shape how people think of that term. I know it seems odd at first, but I think the term 'First Man' is best. It is short. It contains the idea that he should be a 'mensch'. The idea that man is symmetrical with woman and

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1. I think the sentence could be phrased better. What the sentence is trying to say is that if you do an exhaustive search of literature, you can find the words "first lady" together before those words were used as a phrase in the United States. However, it was in the United States that the words

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they mean exactly that. All these countries use the term on their websites exactly as they intend it to be used, whether in translation or not, and it is not the responsibility of Knowledge editors to decide whether they are using it "correctly" or not. These sources are reliable and evidence of

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Hi everyone. I added and removed some major things to this article, such as the red-linked First Ladies, who do not belong on a list of "Notable First Ladies" if there isn't even an article for them. I also added some names, and deleted some. I fixed up the listy prose, and rewrote it in paragraph

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That could lead the reader to suppose that in the United States the First Lady has "recognized" functions or duties. What does that mean? Certainly the president's wife does not have official functions or duties, just as the British prime minister's wife does not. Her position as hostess of the

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The term is inherently American, and inappropriate elsewhere (actually it is not appropriate in the USA either, but that is another matter). Journalists, aping the USA, may use the term elsewhere, but nowhere that I am aware of is there any official title or even local custom like that of the USA.

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In its present sense (and I note the next section), the term 'first lady' is originally and primarily found in and about the United States. Its occasional application elsewhere is a reflection of that, and while it may be becoming established (eg. the above reference to South Africa, apparently),

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When the president's wife is non-existent or unwilling, the customary duties may be fulfilled by the president's daughter, niece, etc. This in itself is a bit odd, since one would assume that if the first lady died in a car accident her duties would be passed to the SECOND lady... the wife of the

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While the traditions and expectations of a first lady vary by country and have changed significantly over time, they typically include responsibilities such as hosting receptions at the executive residence, advocating on behalf of public causes and charities, and running state functions and other

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As a result, low-profile first ladies remain common in post-Soviet countries, due to the leaders of those countries having grown up during the Soviet era What does low-class lady mean, what is it all about? Well, and so in the USSR, the same Nina Petrovna Kukharchuk-Khrushcheva or Brezhnev's wife

2481:. In the United States, where it originated, the term "First Lady" refers not (exclusively) to the spouse of the president, but to the White House hostess. In most cases that's the president's spouse but obviously not if the president is unmarried, or if the president's spouse is not a woman. 2000:

What? There really isn't a starting point to this article - it's currently ONLY about the U.S. First Lady (and, there is already an article that serves that purpose); you are right in saying that "this article is about the First Lady notion as a whole" - and thus the article should be about the

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Then if that is the case it needs to be cited with information that is verifiable. But the examples given of Finland and Ireland apparently didn't hold water. However the issue really seems to be the inference that it is a foregone conclusion that this will be the term used in the instance of a

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While the earliest uses in the United States seem to date to Dolly Madison, the term wasn't betsowed upon the Presidents wife until Rutheford B. Hayes started calling his wife Lucy Webb Hayes "First Lady". By the way, the wife of the President is officially (in current respects, according to US

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After all she's the only US first lady with a realistic chance to become president herself. And one of very few first ladies to become senators. I think this makes her quite significant. I'd even state that in Europe she is the only US first lady most people have ever heard of, exept perhaps for

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Although the US First Lady receives no salary, she does have an office and a budget. The size of the office and budget are at the pleasure of the president, but the same can be said for most offices in the White House. There is no permanent organization chart, and the budget for the white house

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The term "First Lady" is a British term that has been incorrectly applied in the United States of America. Simply put, when the king is unmarried, ie no princess consort, and his mother (Queen Dowager) is deceased, the wife of his eldest living brother (Duchess) becomes First Lady of the Realm

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In Canada, we already have a queen. We don't need to invent one every four years as do some 'other' countries. Indeed, attempting to find a role model that the peasants and bourgois can admire other than a God-given regent is an unfortunate yet necessary function for a country that forsook its

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Kind of a no brainer, first ladies in various cultures will obviously have different duties. If we can find a secondary source for this, go ahead and re-add. By secondary source I mean something that compares the various culture's first ladies. Not us finding primary sources and drawing this

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It seems like this topic is a little chaotic - there is a redirect when you search first gentleman to this article but there is not mention of first gentleman here anymore -- there used to be info on the first bloke of Australia, this is very sexist and reflects a paucity in gender neutral

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I'm not saying start from scratch, however as this article was written with the intent to be purely from the U.S. perspective, I think there is information that would be too trivial for an overall article (the list of first gentlemen, for example), but would work better in the actual U.S.

2954:*It is the name used for the American President's wife.-yes. *The American Media use it for the wife of basically every other world leader, regardless of whether it is used in that country or not.-yes *And some other other countries use a title that can be translated as first lady.-yes. 2828:

Because that's ridiculous. If there is a lack of a cite then mark it as requiring one. But pretending it doesn't exist in other countries, simply because a source can't be found discussing its origins is pedantry that flies in the face of the facts and the rest of the article.

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As I understand the issue, even if Hilary Clinton were to be eleceted, we still would not have an answer to the question of what to call the husband of a female President. Since Bill Clinton is a former President of the US himself, his title would always be Mr. President.

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The speculation that the origins of "first lady" (as a title) are British or French is something that directly conflicts with all the research I've seen on this. Can someone provide references for use of "first lady" as a title outside the United States before 1849?

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why at all does it delve into "First Gentleman" at all? Afterall, if it merits inclusion in First Lady, wouldn't the logical progression be to Wikilink it to an article of its merit. If it can't stand under its own merit, does it deserve a mention in this article?

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back when it was chairman. Better to pick one of the gendered terms (First Lady or First Gentleman) than to go with a term like "first spouse" that nobody actually uses. The lead can be tweaked to make clear the parity between First Lady and First Gentleman, e.g.:

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which is inappropriate when applied to other countries, whatever role the spouses of married Heads of State and/or Government may or may not exercise in the public life of those countries. The term should be reserved for use in the United States context only. --

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I tried to neutralize the article. I didnt know there had been all this activity already, but part of my edits include putting the categories in a way that prevents hegemony. This way other people can add specific examples or names or deviations by country.

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For example I have just added the Poland to the article - You gave the English language version of the website for the Polish president, when the one is the one that we really need in order to confirm what name is actually used. In this example it is

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O^O - What sources have you checked in all your research? I'm interested in finding out where you have looked. BTW, I believe that the First Lady articles document the use of the term in both Great Britian (most notably Burke's Peerage) and France

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form. I got rid of the parenthetical statments, which are harder to read. I found the real "root" of the title First Lady, added it, and cited it. I'd say that I've done a lot of good in helping this article. Feel free to add, or slightly change.

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for several reasons. The article is about the term itself, not a list of First Spouses. The primary usage English is "First Lady" and the article, as it currently stands, is almost exclusively about First Ladies including sections such as

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should simply redirect to here? Notwithstanding the above, usage of the terms "first lady" and "first gentleman" outside America aren't something I'm particularly going to get involved in editing over (other than the etymology, of course).

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I can't see why there needs to be a specific list of current US first gentlemen within the article -- it's excessive detail that's likely to become outdated in any case. I'll go ahead and delete it in a few days if no-one argues otherwise.

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added it in today stating that the term is isued in Finland and in Great Britian. So far I've just run A9, Yahoo! and Google and am not finding anything regarding Finland. Has anyone else everheard of this being used as a common moniker?

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This sentence does not encompass the other countries where the terms "First Lady" and "First Gentleman" are used in an identical context. The Philippines, for example, also makes use of these terms to refer to the spouse of the President.

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This article is not exclusively about the US First Lady; while in the US it may traditionally refer to the White House hostess, this is not case around the world, where the term has evolved to simply denote the president's spouse. See

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Shouldn't there be a section on criticism of the title and role - like it makes sexist assumptions, or that a person shouldn't have, or be expected to have, a title or to fulfill certain functions on the basis of his/her spouses job ?

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prime minister titled 'president' and officially head of state too, the wife of the president is known as the first lady in exactly the same way. The term may originally be American, but there is no reason why it can't be extended.

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Definitely, add non-U.S. material to this article. I'm just saying, you don't need to remove much of the U.S. material that's already here; I think it's appropriate as part of an overall world view on the First Lady notion.

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I agree, not because of whether it is or isn't neutral, but because "First Lady" doesn't encompass the article's entire scope. There are many First Gentlemen who wouldn't be covered under the current article title, despite

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imperial and monarchical heritage through sedition in 1776. First Lady, First Family, Fisrt Daughter, First Gardener, First Puppy, First Poopy, - good gracious when will it be the LAST? God Save Us All (And The Queen too!)

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The day the United States OF America elects a woman like Hillary Clinton to be its leader is the day you'll all have to refer to Bubba Bill as a "gentleman," as ludicrous and laughable a prospect as there ever was.

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What does (the first part of) this sentence mean: "Although the words 'first lady' were previously used in combination to refer to women..."? Isn't that obvious? Has it ever been used "in combination" to refer to

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As for the male equivalent, to be typically American, the term should be something like 'First Man' or 'First Gent'. The word 'gentleman' is pretentious in the same sense that 'madam' or 'madame' would be for a

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It's opinionated, and it's extremely badly written, so much so that parts of it are hard to understand. I don't want to translate it into comprehensible English because I don't think it should be there at all.

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is needed to determine whether the translation is correct? I find that rather patronising. The official language of Trinidad and Tobago, Nigeria, Uganda and Zambia is English, so when they say "First Lady"

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even mentioned in the comment you replied to, you complete moron. Take it to a political forum, for God's sakes. I believe the first commenter is correct, I second the idea for merging "First Gentleman" here.

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term for the husband of a female president. The origin is from the term that what Bill Clinton will be called, if Hillary Clinton becomes Madame President of the USA, plus also it comes from the ABC programme

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and rewrite article to be gender-neutral (though be sure to note the traditional the use of 'First Lady' too). This article is not about a term, but a concept, and this concept has broadened in recent years.

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I agree with you -- "First Gentleman" should probably merit a section in this article or its own article, as it currently redirects to "First Lady" with very little actual information about First Gentlemen.

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was the only woman in history to be First Lady of two different nations. But since every wife of a French president is ex-officio also the wife of the Co-Prince of Andorra, I don't think this is true. --

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Earthlyreason - I'm pretty sure the IP is right. Look at the link he gave - we already have an article about First Lady of the U.S. It used to be that this article had everyone - I don't know how it got

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Similarly, the wife of the German chancellor is sometimes referred to in the media (tongue in cheek) as "first lady". Should this kind of press adoption of official titles be discussed in the article?

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I would like to make a proposal, but before I add it to the article, I want to make sure I have consensus (it is a serious edit). I would like to slim down the list of first ladies to the ones that

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State Department protocol) Mrs. George W. Bush - Laura Bush is NEVER officially introduced at State Functions as the First Lady because it is not a Government title, and she receives no salary.

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So by all means, if you have any weblinks to verify uses in other countries, I'd be happy to add them. But be careful that the use is not just an Americanism or a corruption in translation.

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All of which is correct. There is no "pretending" it is not used anywhere else. It states explicitly - "Some other countries have a title, formal or informal, that is or can be translated as

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the constitutive words of whatever official title are neither "first" nor "lady". -so care needs to be taken to ensure the correct native term is used, and that is translation is correct.

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the term "First Lady"'s use in other countries? Despite the article itself listing its use in other countries, and 100s of source that can be listed that show its use in other countries?

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to warrant a move. If the term is United States-centric then it is still appropriate to move because the term also applies to spouses of female governors. The current name is simply not

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etc. In fact with the exception of the Lieutenant governor article all the others had the second word capitalized until a requested move arrived at the consensus to make it lowercase.--

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Furthermore, the cleanup tag was removed at the same time. I don't see how anyone could object to the article in it's current state being called a list, so I'm adding that back in too.

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In countries where the head of state and the head of government are different persons, it is standard practice to refer to the spouse of the head of state as First Gentleman or Lady.

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The only time I ever hear the spouse of the Canadian Prime Minister referred to as the "First Lady" is in American news reports. Google turns up few domestic instances of its use.

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that gentleman is symmetrical with lady is a bit too mechanical. It is more an artifact of how they are used than due to something intrinsic to how we think of the words. —

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I did some research online (which I understand is not the last word for verifiability) to try and find if the term First gentleman is something that is in common usage since

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in 2009. Otherwise, it's just speculation. Currently, there is no male equivalent for First Lady in the United States since there has been no husband of the President yet.

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The section was removed, If we can find some sources we can incorporate some as examples. But the idea of "notable" is very biased, how do we know which ones are notable?

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article refers to the use of "First Lady" everywhere, and not just in the United States, I'm afraid I can't judge if it should rightly be called a "position". -

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where similar information is given. Again, anyone may state their opinion here, as I don't want to start an edit war because there is no consensus. Thanks,

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I have removed the 'Outside the United States' section as it was peppered with calls for references, and was built around the entirely erroneous statement:

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True - I got the terms mixed up there; however I nonetheless believe to list every first gentlemen will be a little over-the-top after the globalization--

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I can find no such title attached to Livia, the wife of Augustus, formerly Gaius Octavius. The other two wives of Augustus belong to the pre-Principate (

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Whereas this article is about a global subject, and given that there is already an article that is on the U.S. First Lady (and is appropriately titled

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I just added some citations for First Gentleman. I don't think the subject is large enough to merit its own article, at least not at the present time.

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It has occurred to me that this article refers to ALL spouses of heads of state, not just the United States. There is actually a separate article for

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It was immediately reverted. I'm going to remove it again, if you object then could we please discuss it here rather than getting into a revert war.

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Ok but that still wouldn’t explain why this be different than as Prime minister, Member of parliament, Lieutenant governor, and Roman emperor etc?--

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White House is unofficial, based on custom and not on law. No such customs pertain to the British prime minister's wife, not because of any less

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of a head of state to that of an elected head of government. This means that a number of previously "failed" first ladies can now be reinstated

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In any event, this article is deserves to have correct information by someone who who is better versed in the matter then the one who wrote it.

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there are only 31 one first ladies in the picture including laura bush... though it says laura bush and an additional 36 first ladies. false.

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Are the examples of the term being used for spouse of head of government that's not head of state? The term is an extension of the concept of

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Since the 'Apolitical uses' section currently cites no examples from outside the USA: Canadian professional wrestler Genny Goulet, stage name

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several First Ladies have exerted considerable power and influence over the course of government despite the lack of a legal mandate, such as

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But then you don't provide that many names. I did see that brief service of daughter Chelsea Clinton as Hillary Clinton began Senate term.

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The term First Lady has never been used in the UK, except possibly as satire. Indeed, the only time I have ever seen it used myself was

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status (she has none and the president's wife has none), but because such ceremonial functions are already fulfilled by the monarch.

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Don't forget the rest of the English speaking world -Australia, Britain, Canada, Ireland & New Zealand - do not use the term.

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of the chamber, to whom I was made reversioner, was a daughter of M. le Comte de Chemant, and her grandmother was a Montmorency.

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article is solely about the White House position. It doesn't deal with spouses of governors, mayors, or any other position.

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and related articles on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

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version of the title". Something cannot be both rare and common. This is fundamentally NOT an article, but rather a

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were first used as a phrase to refer to the wife or hostess of the President. Here is an example, from the

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translated as "First Lady"? And the official websites of these countries are wrong in some way, and

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after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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there. Have you actually read the intro? Try reading it as a whole there -you see it is accurate.

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In other words, if this article is only about the First Lady of the U.S., it needs to be fixed.--

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where calling the article "First Spouse" would be inaccurate. Also, "First Spouse" is not even

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Note: this article is about the general concept of First Ladies. I don't think we should move

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https://web.archive.org/20070216101533/http://www.governor.wa.gov:80/about/mike/default.asp

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Great Britain hasn't existed as a country since 1801, and none of the examples predate this

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Dr. Pentti Arajärvi is usually considered to be the just Madam President Halonen's spouse.

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have gone on to win political power in their own right, while others, such as Argentine

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The article doesn't explain the etymology of the title. Why "first"? Was it taken from "

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female President's husband AND whether the term should be in this article or its own.

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where President Mackenzie Allen's husband Rod Calloway is called the First Gentleman.

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The article should emphasise that this is an American term, not an international one.

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If Hillary Clinton runs for President and wins, will Bill be the first gentleman?--

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Section "Role as presidential partner and political institution" should be removed

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Googling around, I have found that Second Lady has been occasionally used for the

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redirects to this article, but there's nothing in the article about that term...

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in that context. Where prime ministers' wives are called anything, it is usually

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Em, the term is First Gentleman is used for the husbands of the Governors of

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after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add

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as a term in the article and is not used officially in any country. —

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And notice that a woman, Angela Merkel, became Germany chancellor.

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to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

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either make the article gender neutral or separate the articles!--

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and that is purely a tabloid press name, never used officially.

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and fix links (say if it should link to First lady of the US)

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This article is not factual and it needs to be rewritten.

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This article needs some serious work to make it accurate

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