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March 1949. The basic idea is to lift a small sounding rocket high above the dense atmosphere with a large balloon in the Skyhook class. Once enough altitude is attained, the rocket is fired by radio signal straight up through the balloon. The rocket will reach much higher altitudes than it could from the ground. The rockoon has turned out to be a simple, cheap way of getting high-altitude data without special facilities. Many rockoons employing Deacon, Loki, and Hawk rockets were fired between 1952 and 1960. Once satellites and high-altitude sounding rockets became available in adequate numbers, the use of rockoons declined. "James A. Van Allen first put rockoons to practical use when he and his group from the University of Iowa fired several from the Coast Guard Cutter East Wind during its cruise off Greenland in August and September 1952. 41 Van Allen was looking for high-altitude radiation near the magnetic poles and needed a vehicle that could reach well over 80 km (50 mi) with an 11-kg (25-lb) payload and yet still be launched easily from a small ship. The rockoon was the answer." Apparently there was only one S.F. Singer active in astronautics in the 1950s. --
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is applicable too), or indeed that insideclimatenews is really the "news" organization it pretends to be, with editorial control fact-checking retracting etc. And it's merely name-calling, without evidence that Singer aligns with climate deniers (in fact he has said "climate deniers give us skeptics
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NASA SOUNDING ROCKETS, 1958-1968 - A Historical Summary, NASA SP-4401, 1971, by William R. Corliss "The rockoon concept seems to have been originated by Lt. M. L. (Lee) Lewis during a conversation with S. F. Singer and George Halvorson during the Aerobee firing cruise of the U.S.S. Norton Sound in
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also says "If you cannot find multiple reliable third-party sources documenting the allegation or incident, leave it out." So NorthBySouthBaranof didn't follow BLP requirements and saying that others need consensus is false. NorthBySouthBaranof's heading for this thread is also problematic since
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says "Keep headings neutral" but let's let that pass this time and get to why the content is wrong. The material is poorly sourced, there is no evidence that Katherine Bagley is an expert on the subject of Fred Singer, or that insideclimatenews given its partisan nature is a reliable source in
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Dave: I'm not quite sure what your point is here. Are you saying that Fred Singer isn't a RS for his own life & career? That the abundant recognition he received as a professional physicist (including a Presidential Science Medal for his basic research, which led to the development of
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Someone should take the time to go through the article and update the verb tenses. I just noticed that the section on Global warming is written as though Singer is still alive — i.e., using the present tense instead of the past tense ("conflicts" vs. "conflicted," etc.).
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This is trashing the reputation of a distinguished and deceased physicist, whose contributions to physics helped make GPS practical -- and in the editorial name of Knowledge. Have you people no shame?
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He is not relevant as a physicist. His main claim to "fame" is his opposition to the scientific consensus on climate change, plus the one on smoking and cancer, and others. The same is true for
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satellite-based GPS) wasn't merited? I stand by my comment. This is ideological opinion speaking in WP's editorial voice, which BLP does not allow. --
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I'm unclear on why anyone would think the removal would be appropriate. Perhaps we add more emphasis in the article body, with further sourcing? --
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In my own case, my Wiki bio also carried additional malicious accusations; the most bizarre one was that I believed in the existence of Martians.
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is a "random essay", in your opinion? Why not try to address the question? Is "Denier" a defamatory term? I think it is, as do many others. --
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emphasizes it in various ways, here is one: "If it is to be restored without significant change, consensus must be obtained first."
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a bad name"). I hope other editors will opine about the subject, and in the meantime have not reverted NorthBySouthBaranof's edit.
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What is it about the reliable sources used that you object to? And "shame" is rather off target here. Sorry 'bout that.
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https://skepticalinquirer.org/2010/11/the_storms_over_climate_change/?%2Fsi%2Fshow%2Fthe_storms_over_climate_change
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claiming that it was poorly sourced. I restored the material with an appropriate and impeccable reliable source,
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Is this the same "S. F. Singer" who (together with Van Allen and Halvorson) was responsible for the
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articles on environment-related topics, as well as to ensure that environment articles are properly
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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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Good grief. "The most notable aspect of his life!" Have you actually read the article? --
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The fact that Singer was a climate change denier is well-supported by reliable sources.
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And it's part of his notability, if not the most notable aspect of his life. --
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There are many sources that describe Fred Singer's views in terms of denial.
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No, the OPINION etc. is what's supported by RSs . The current version fails
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Nope. It suggests this area is as intensely politicized as ever! Cheers,
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The phrase "advocate for climate denial" was removed from the lede by
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Don't be ridiculous. Random essays do not overrule basic policy. --
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https://www.drillednews.com/post/fred-singer-obituary-climate-denier
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