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Kherson among their twin cities on the respective main entries. Also, I have searched the archive for Oslo municipality and can find no mention of Kherson ever having been a twin
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I think this section should be made into a new article, then a summary could be put here for the long term context. The 3 linked articles could also be linked in the new article. What should the name be? I think something with 2022-2023, also reflecting the context in the wider conflict. Something
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History is an integral part of any page on a place of human settlement. Removing it to a separate page (where it is less likely to be encountered) would still require leaving a substantial summary behind. Length of the page is not a problem. With clearly marked sections, readers can skip whatever
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I can envision there being some semantic disputes here but right now it says "Russian forces were ordered to withdraw from the city" in lede. But isn't it perhaps more accurate to note somehow that the
Russian withdrawal was forced by Ukrainian offensive operations? Something along the lines of:
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Of course not. Just because someone claims to have annexed something, it doesn't change the situation. The so-called annexation by the fascist regime in Moscow lacks any legal standing, as the entire world has made clear (including the UN). Pretending otherwise would violate what virtually every
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This is a joke. The site is protected from trolls etc? Still - the stated country is 'rusia'?! Based on international legislation, the UN declaration and majority of the world, this is NOT russian. Thereafter hiding behind a 'semi-edit protection' seems to be related to this disinformation.
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Finnish version of this article, but I can't speak Ukrainian so I have translate from English. City of this size warrants a main article on its history, espicially if new content is added. Splitting other sections like Transport and Geography would be helpful as well.
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At the end of the
Russian occupation section, it is stated that "No other country recognized the annexation". This should be changed to "As of 5 October 2022, North Korea is the only UN member to have explicitly backed annexation" (The following link can be used as the source:
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This can probably be phrased as "due to , Russian forces were ordered to leave", or something like that. I do prefer the term "retreat", but if that's somehow not possible or appropriate, elaborating the "ordered to leave" -part with an antecedent would pprobably suffice.
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Earlier today
Kherson along with other fromer regions of Ukraine joined the Russian Federation. It is now an annexed territory, a part of the Russian Federation just like Moscow, Sevastopol or Vladivostok. Maybe we can add to separate infoboxes about Ukraine and Russia.
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Territory being occupied during an ongoing military aggression on a country is NOT the same as "Control". Stop putting it into the infobox of this or any other city. It is also a misuse of "Smaller parts" group of parameters in "Infobox settlement" template.
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Agreed, plus the Kiev government has no control over the area and the area has petitioned to join the
Russian Federation. It's a Russian city occupied by the Ukraine. Article needs major restructuring, perhaps after Kherson eventually joins Russia.
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