Talk:Hot pot - Knowledge

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Malaysian/Singaporean influence i.e. I don't think it's just Malaysian/Singaporean owners choosing the name familiar ot them. I suspect a combination of language influence and maybe also since steam boat when it comes to food doesn't generally mean anything else, but hot pot can. To be clear, hot pot is the most common term in NZ.

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Thanks, the question is, in English, a bowl is not used for cooking. It's used for putting food in that has been already cooked, so that one can eat out of it. In Chinese restaurants in the U.S., however, this item is used to actually cook foods that are labeled on the menu as "Hot pot dishes." Thus,

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is well documented. The Mongols in Inner Mongolia share the same culinary traditions, despite of what the Han-Chinese immigrants there may have brought with them. Discussion of the topic was started in June 2006 four headings further up on this very page, and remained unanswered for almost a year. If

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The photos we've currently got do not accurately represent hot pot, in particular, Chinese style hot pot (火锅). "Raw meats ready to be cooked" is fine, however the others are not accurate representations. The flaming hot pot is just an attempt at cooking hot pot that got out of control! Wink wink, you

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This article should either be re-named "steamboat" as it covers non-chinese varieties, or alternatively references to non-chinese varieties moved onto a new article (possibkly entitled "steamboat"), as the title "hot pot" refers to the chinese variety and the article is currently catagorised as such.

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The dual pot hot pots are common in Sichuan and across the southern tier of China into Guangdong. An excellent hot pot restaurant suitable for western palates is located in the Fu Tien Quay area of Shenzhen next to the Hotel Vienna. Many hot pot restaurants circulate a special mushroom tray (similar

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An ethnobotanical survey of medicinal spices used in Chinese hotpot Menghua Wu a, Ping Guo a,b, Sze Wai Tsui a, Hubiao Chen a, Zhongzhen Zhao a,⁎ a School of Chinese Medicine, Hong Kong Baptist University, Kowloon Tong, Hong Kong, China b School of Pharmacy, Chengdu University of Traditional Chinese

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I have also added 打邊爐 as an alternative to 打甂爐. Although some have argued that the latter (打甂爐) is the original and the former (打邊爐) a derivative or corruption, 打邊爐 has become the overwhelmingly dominant way of writing the Cantonese term for hot pot. For that reason, I edited the article to list 打邊爐

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deleting it. Coriander is really the only fresh herb used in Sichuan cooking. Very common in many noodle dishes, soups, as well as dishes like "kou3 shui3 ji1". Used to break up oily flavors. Sometimes the stems are used, sometimes the leaves, sometimes both. Came to China during the Han dynasty and

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I noticed someone put a link to a commercial site selling hot pots. Is this in the spirit of wikipedia? It is even labeled, "buy mongolian firepots". Are there a wikipedia guidelines about this sort of thing? I don't think it's right, having any sort of commercial link. Imagine if all pages had

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This is a very dubious paragraph. The cooking method is largely unknown in Mongolia today, which means it probably isn't traditional there either. The alleged motivation for its invention is absurd in a nomadic context. Fuel for cooking isn't precious in the steppe, there's an unlimited supply of

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No, it's not. The hot pot cuisine described in this article uses a metal pot that is used to cook at the table. The clay one I showed is used for dishes called, at least in Chinese restaurants in North America, "hot pot" dishes. It is apparently a Cantonese cooking technique. Thus, I'm inquiring

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I think conveyor_belt_hot_pot shouldn't be merged with hot_pot for the same reasons that conveyor_belt_sushi is a separate article from sushi. Mainly, that it would discourage additions to the article because they would mostly be off-topic for the hot_pot article. There have already been some

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While I agree hot pot as the article title makes sense, I don't think 'steam boat' is restricted to Malaysia and Singapore. It may be true that it's only there where it's the predominant term but steam boat is also used by some restaurants here in NZ and a number of them don't seem to have much

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The Chinese style of cooking has origins in Mongolia and northern China, emerging in primitive forms over a thousand years ago. Mongolian nomads would cook meat and vegetables in a pot over the embers of a camp fire. It is these nomads who is said to have started the tradition of slicing meats

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Luckily, we needn't decide if it is spam; whether or not it is a significant aspect of the article topic (hot pot) will decide. If it is, independent reliable sources discussing hot pot would discuss the restaurant and a neutral summary of what they have to say about it would take care of any

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First off, 'Da ben lu' does not conform to any accepted romanization of Cantonese or Mandarin. Second, those are not the original characters for the common Cantonese terminology for hotpot. As such, the literal translation is incorrect, it is not "hitting the side of the pot." Get your facts

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I have made the Mandarin term for hot pot (火锅) primary and the Cantonese term (打邊爐) an alternative. The rationale for the change is that use of the Mandarin term is not limited to Cantonese-speaking regions and making it primary reflects the usage of the majority of Chinese speakers.

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that's what you call "unilateral", then so be it. Note that pretty much all of the receipes that are called "Mongolian" elsewhere (both in the west and in China) really have nothing to do with Mongolia. The term is most commonly used as a synonym for "unusual" or "exotic". --

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I don't know of any differences,except maybe spices in the broth (can't remember for sure). However if Hot pot is the more prevailent term, Steamboat seems to be limited to Malaysia or singapore. Couldn't they just have their own separete section in Hot Pot and be redirected

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I deleted this from the article because it was unsourced, and because I had never seen this in Xishuangbanna. I think that whoever wrote this did not have much experience with hot pot because, throughout China, hot pot is divided into a spicy and a cooler side.

983:"Hot Pot is eaten year round" makes perfect sense. That is the correct grammatical structure. "Hot Pot" is the name of the meal, just like you would say "pizza is eaten year round". It sounds strange because of the use of "pot" but that's just how it is. 1836:

in "regional variations" the article claims (unreferenced) that congee can be used instead of stock in canton. Is this really true? can congee really boil hot enough without burning to cook the ingredients? I'm pretty skeptical about this claim!

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I think you've got it the wrong way around. "Hot pot" refers to any of a vast array of stick-things-in-broth dishes, including 火鍋, while "steamboat" is an odd way of referring to 火鍋 alone that I haven't seen used outside Singapore and Malaysia.

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The same grammatical structure is repeated in many other sentences. It just .. doesn't seem like the proper use of the noun to me. Maybe something like, "In Beijing, hot pot-style cuisine is eaten year-round." But that's chunky. Ugh.

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The origin part is a complete false. It is dated at least in Western Zhou Dynasty and recorded at many times in historical books. It is called Ding Shi, in which Ding is the 3-legged containers dated 3000 BC and Shi means 'to eat'.

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I came to this article out of curiosity about the inexpensive small appliance known (mostly to college students) as a "hotpot." I'm surprised that there isn't anything about it at all here. Rival is the main manufacturer of these.

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In Chinese, including Cantonese, 打 is used in numerous multi-character expressions to take the place of concrete, specific verbs. When used that way, 打 is used in many senses and cannot be translated in a context independent way.

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which is very akin to beijing style hot pot now without the spice. also the style of slicing and boiling meat is more mongolian and nomadic (daur, evenki etc) then han chinese style cooking with sauces and other ingredients

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A picture in the article is subtitled to show ‚yinyang‘ hot pot. It is actually called 鸳鸯 yuan yang in mandarin Chinese. Is yinyang a common term for this split pot type of hot pot outside of China, or is it just an error?

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1. Include the correct tones. This has to be the most important thing. Without tones, there is ambiguity. Even with context to guide you, it's a very bad habit not to use tones. This is WikiPedia we're talkin' about!

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I want to know how we are going to call this item in English, and whether it should represent another section in this article, since it is called "hot pot" on Chinese restaurant menus in English-speaking countries.

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Are there notable (any?) differences between Sg/My steamboat and Chinese hotpot? They're both called 火鍋 and Sg restaurants almost always advertise "authentic Chongqing steamboat", "Sichuan mala steamboat", etc.

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to a dessert tray in the US) with more flavorful mushrooms. There is one mushroom that resembles a certain part of male anatomy that is greeted with laughter as the tray circulates from table to table.

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OK, so it's the thing that boils water very quickly. It's really more of a "water boiler." I think "Hot Pot" is a brand name. How many brands make this item and do they all call it "Hot Pot"?

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would be a more unique (and descriptive) name even if not universally applicable, or someone may be able to work something on the Steamboat theme. Hotpot on its own is not a good name though.

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and its particular form of hot pot exists primarily in Malaysia and Singapore, than the content in Steamboat can be restricted solely to that, while keeping Hot Pot as more general article.--

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OK, then, since it is called "hot pot" for dishes that are cooked and served in this sort of pot in Chinese restaurants in English-speaking regions, shouldn't it have a mention in the

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It is plausible that Haidilao is notable enough to be significantly associated with hot pot across China, so I didn't remove it. But it looks like commercial spam as written.

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the parts of mongolia which is now in communist china such as northern xinjiang (Oriats) sichuan tibet and inner mongolia which have Mongolic peoples have tradition of

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Asian style 'Hot pot' has its origins in the Mongolian troops of Genghis Khan, as an easy way to cook using shields or helmet when marching and riding many miles.

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Those of you living or travelling in China should definitely be able to come up with something; a traditional coal fired hotpot would be great. I'll try as well.

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Ideally, I reckon it would be great to get a photo for each different kind of hot pot mentioned in the article. Now that would be authoritative! Good luck!

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Chengdu hot pot {ho go} is spicy beyond the average westerners ability to ingest it. Even for people who like very spicy Thai, Sichuan cuisine is hotter.

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I have also deleted the previous literal translation of 打甂爐, "hit the 'bin' pot". That translation is unsupported and a mistranslation of 打.

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Here's a number of example Cantonese and Standard Chinese expressions that begin with 打 but has nothing to do with hitting or striking:

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Da ben lu (打邊爐) is the common Cantonese terminology for hot pot which translates literally into "hitting the side of the pot."

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know who you are. The hot pot should not spout flames like this. The current photos certainly don't look appetizing at all.

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Why was this article flagged? I see nothing wrong with it, and it seems to flow smoothly... perhaps somebody could clarify?

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2. Space the pinyin according to matching characters ("pinyin" being accepted as correct, but technically it's pīn yīn ;) )

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Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from:

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article should feature another section discussing this pot, and the Cantonese cooking technique it is used for.

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is actually correct, and technically correct. In pinyin, separate syllables are grouped together to form words.

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about the romanization for canto, daa2 bin1 lou4 should be it (i used this website for the correct notations:

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which sounds like what you're describing, because it cooks very slowly. But many Asian college students use

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Thai suki is usually prepared by a cook, rather than prepared by the diner at the table, as is hot pot.

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Changed wording. Paticular page has a lot of relevant info on the subject. Could fall into grey area.

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shows, hotpot can refer to a variety of dishes - notably in British English it only ever refers to the

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It was pretty choppy and difficult to read a couple days ago. Several editors have helped clean it up.

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Get a table near an air conditioning vent as the table cooking generates significant room temperature.

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at first brush. However, it does not mention, let alone discuss the restaurant. I've removed it. -

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Latebird 回家 then why do even Han-chinese play off this imagery of Mongolian hotpot and pay homage?

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There are numerous other examples, but in short, 打 in 打甂爐 should not be translated as "to hit". --

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