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I have proof and valid points as well. I found a video on YouTube surfacing were the franchise name logo and colors were revealed on
September 6, 2000. How could the organization be established in 2002 when their name and color revealing occurred two years ago. The Texans history even stated that in
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The team came into existence as a coprorate entity in 1999 (at the latest.) During 2000 and 2001, the team adopted a nickname, hired a staff, got the new stadium built, etc., etc. Several free agents players were signed in late 2001. The Texans didn't begin playing till 2002. The infobox correctly
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