1667:, and that still leaves the characterization of reliable sources as the controlling factor, although in a slightly broader manner than supporters suggest. I might have entertained the argument that, by nature of being a descriptive title, NDESC considers the content in the article in whole, instead of the specific turns of phrase journalists choose. The citation of The Guardian was particularly sloppy, given that the article also refers to it as a part of a pattern of "assuault"s and takes the tone of horror in covering the entire tragedy. Overall, however, the tenor of the arguments in support are solid. The opposition, by contrast, leaned largely on a pragmatic assessment of the events of the attack. Combined with the opposition being outnumbered 5 to 9, I see consensus to move. No prejudice against an RM from "Holit attack" towards something like
2676:, thank you for your effort on this close and your compliment. But with all due respect I appeal to you to reverse your decision and let an admin close, even if that takes some, itās important enough to wait. The outcome of this close is difficult not only because itās a CTOP, but because it has implications for all articles about warlike action related to unarmed citizens (existing and future). So although I respect your thinking, I would like the close to be by an admin, making the unassailable interpretation of COMMON official having considered these implications, if thatās the outcome. Iāll put this on your talk page as well, I just want my appeal to be here for other participants to see. Thanks again.
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never brings us peace and never brings us better lives. It just brings more and more terror, and more and more people killed like my brother. I donāt want anything to happen to people in Gaza like it happened to my brother ā and Iām sure he wouldnāt want that either. Thatās my call to my government: Stop killing innocent people. Thatās not the way to bring us peace and security.ā Their mother agreed that
Katsman āwouldnāt want innocent people to be killed."
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appropriate descriptively. The deaths in this case were overwhelmingly of the "massacre" pattern, so it is descriptively incorrect to not indicate this in the title. Counting of words is confounded for various reasons (not least of which is that, as above, "attack" is the more generic word so will be used more often) and should not be used to change the description of how the attacks happened.
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1698:- It was a common ground of people on both sides of the discussion that "attack" likely prevails over "massacre" in descriptions of this event in reliable sources numerically. This was by itself a very strong argument in favour of moving that would take a strong numerical and/or argumentative showing in the other direction to close as not moved.
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2564:, so this approach isn't entirely original research, but in the context of choosing a name for the article, such analysis is largely irrelevant and should be rejected. That's not at all to play down the severity of the tragedy which occurred, but the central point is that if sources predominantly call it an
2504:, but the most notable part of this attack is the massacre. Even if we can't determine the goal of the terrorists (whether it was to slaughter, kidnap, occupy or something else) we should choose the definition that emphasizes the most notable feature of this topic (just like it would be stupic to rename
5301:, thank you for your edit supplying the correct name of the Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigade and the linked article which Iāve reviewed. If I may ask some questions for my education. I acknowledge my lack of knowledge of Hamas or itās alliesā military structure, so I apologize if my questions seem obvious:
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time for this article for over a week (26 resources vs initial 5). Iāve found the resources I will use but havenāt yet summarized them all. Note that there are several articles covering the same attack, but from different perspectives. I might not use all of them in the final article, but will use most.
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Thanks for the compliment. Iāve seen and learnt from your editing of similar but much more complex articles, so thanks for that as well. I would normally write the first instance of IDF in full and linked, followed by use of the abbreviation. I think the same is appropriate here. I agree we should be
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In my experience across
Knowledge, the Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades are generally considered the sole military wing of Hamas. As you've noted, there are other groups known as "brigades," such as the Khan Yunis Brigade or the Northern Gaza Brigade, but the Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades are considered
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Moshiko
Bengiat a friend of Adiās since childhood and the family spokesperson, said that even when she was considered a hostage he did not want the Israeli government to negotiate with Hamas but rather punish them: āPeople donāt understand the magnitude of this. This is our 9/11. Except they werenāt
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this received angry responses from most funeral attendees, which is inappropriate at a Jewish funeral where bereaved family are treated with respect despite emotional outbursts because of their pain, a few of their brothers friends thanked the representing him as he would have wanted to be represented
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Raitzon didnāt accompany them because he had to be at work at 8:00 the morning after the attack. The chief of police in Rakhat was killed, and
Raitzin's deputy was injured, it took them severaldays to clear the Rakhat of militants. Temprary housing had to be found for the police near Rakhat which was
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The attack (generic meaning) section, when written, will show that this attack was different from that on Nir
Yitzhak in that there was only minimal resistance from the kibbutz residents. In terms of the sources most residents hid in their safe rooms , and were defenseless and unable to resist if the
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In the middle ground whatās seems like a woman, facing away from the camera and away from the people walking off the left corner, dressed in a blue windbreaker with a reddish pink upside down triangular patch on the back, and a white dress, is seen walking towards a child/toddler (possibly a boy) in
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I'd just like to state for posterity that had FOARP not explicitly stated that they were vacating their own review, I would have simply upheld their close the same way I would opine on it if it were challenged at AN: they were within their discretion to make the close, despite not being an admin. It
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For all the reasons
Ayenaee stated above. The fact is that Hamas militants infiltrated the unprotected Kibbutz, went from house to house, murdered 15 of the kibbutz's residents in cold blood, among them women, children and elderly, and wounded many more. In common English this event is definitely a
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The general pattern of the attack (what was done) followed that of a massacre (how it was done). Militants went from house to house shooting at the metal shutters of saferooms to determine from screams from within whether they were occupied. They then attempted to breach occupied saferooms and where
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a massacre, and I thank
Ayenaee for their contribution to this discussion). For this reason, it was hard to give a lot of weight to the argument that "massacre" is a POV name, since it is clearly accurate given the facts. Showing that it was a POV name would require casting doubt on it having been a
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I will be adding text to the story as I proceed with the update. At that point I could discard the list. But for list/table oriented people (like me) the complexity of the text becomes difficult to follow without the visual aid. So the aim is not to memorialize but to make the article accessible to
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Hi VR, Iām aware of MEMORIAL and I thought about the list being seen in that light. But it was not intended to be. My writing process is to first summarise all the resources and then base the article off those sources (as you can see in the Nir
Yitzhak article and talk page). Much of the nobility of
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When Iāve seen "Al-Qassam" added in other articles, Iāve added a {cn} tag because I thought that Hamas had other brigades so the involvement of this one needed citation. Can you confirm that this is incorrect and that if resources mention Hamas participation this always means the Al-Quassam
Brigade
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But I canāt see how itās editorialising. I am updating this article per my pledge at its keep AfD, so the refs arenāt in yet, but their are refs to support both sentences (see section above). I understand itās not a popular opinion, but it is one
Katsman a"h and his family hold. It provides balance
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The family were angered by Hamas releasing video of what they said was a mother being released with her sons a couple of days after the attack, the video was of the two sons being saved on the day of the attack by Avital Aledjem who was taken hostage with them but managed according to her to escape
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Noy is calling for a political solution for the Gaza-Israel war, which is not a popular stance in Israel, he has received some message of condolence and respect for his position from Israeliās and people who say theyāre in Gaza, one wrote " I just wanted to tell you how sorry I am for what happened
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Thanks for your comment. Iām saddened that Iām not granted AGF even in the form in which I present my !vote. To clarify: it was not my intention to argue a personal preference or to tacitly acknowledge anything. My conclusions are based on a thorough review of resources which Iāve provided. I argue
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I still think it would be better to focus on Nir Yitzhak where the update is complete, in terms of this question, and withdraw this one till the actual update is complete. But thatās VRās choice. This one will definitely need relisting if it continues, because I expect it will take at least another
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Iām not against this discussion happening, but I had hoped it could wait until I updated the article using all the resources Iāve found. As I said in the AfD the resources I found there were just used to show initial notability. I have been working on collecting and summarizing resources in my free
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The usual suspects applied for the deletion of this page. Allow for a "Hamas massacres on 7 October 2023" page, and I'd be happy to discuss it. That would be a less disingenuous attempt at whitewashing and worth considering. Attacking military bases is one thing, although one can apply the rules of
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Iāve just noticed that on another article someone change Hamas in the infobox to "Hamas (Nuseirat Battalion)", which indicates my reasoning above is incorrect? I see this battalion is mentioned in the list of battalions in the article you linked. To me this means that Al-Qassam is the general name
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During Katzmanās funeral his sibling Noyās Katsman expressed their and their brotherās peace activist beliefs by stating in their eulogy that āI have no doubt that even in the face of Hamas people that murdered him ... he would still speak out against the killing and violence of innocent people.ā,
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He spent 13 hours in the safe room, listening to bullets, grenades and smelling smoke. Of this period he said: "I read and said goodbye, read and said goodbye. Something inside me died that day. I think a lot of us did. Because no one thought they would survive. They just went from house to house
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I have just finished the table of sources I will use to update the article (see section below). I base my arguments on that, but since no one wants to wait for the update before this discussion, you will either have to verify my statements by reviewing my summaries of the sources, or AGF that I am
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where Iām collecting the resources. Where the table says "SUMMARY" it means I still need to to do one. Youāll have to look at individual articles for this purpose, because I donāt note whether an attack is called a massacre or not. I also start toning done some of the more emotional wording in the
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Therefore in this attack (what happened), the method (how it happened) in just under 80% of the reported killings and injuries to civilians, was factually and descriptively a premeditated massacre of defenseless unresisting people. To not use the word massacre to describe this is an inappropriate
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Katsmanās mother, and his sibling Noy who is also a peace activist, both said Katsman would not want his death to be used to justify retribution against Palestinians. "They always tell us if weāre going to kill enough Palestinians, itās going to be better for us,ā Noy told CNN. āBut of course it
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I did consider a relisting of this discussion, however the recent surge in voting in favour of the move makes it unlikely that the outcome would be changed. If any one on this thread would prefer an admin close to this controversial discussion, come and find me on my talk page and I will happily
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Once "massacre" is used once in reference to a particular attack, or in an article about a particular attack where the entire 7 October event is referred to as a massacre, it is established that the method of attack was massacre, and the more general nature of what happened (rather than how it
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In English (1) is referred to as an "attack" (or perhaps military attack, battle, combat etc) and (2) as a "massacre". Being the more generic word, attack can refer to either generically but canāt describe the elements of a massacre. In this usage neither word is POV and each should be used as
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If it is unclear which parts of the page are related to this contentious topic, the content in question should be marked within the wiki text by an invisible comment. If no comment is present, please ask an administrator for assistance. If in doubt it is better to assume that the content is
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Avichay Adraee, the IDFās Arabic language spokesmen said that the late release of the footage was a propaganda attempt by Hamas to improve its world image after, images were shown worldwide in the preceding days of the atrocities committed by Hamas during their 7 October attacks on
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per Amakuru, it isnt even close on common name, attack is exponentially more commonly used than massacre, and thats according to the data from somebody who opposes tht move. If it were close then we could look at things and analyze, but it isnt close so this is an obvious support.
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Troen described his daughter and son-in-law as "idealists" who lived at Kibbuts Holit less than a mile from Gaza, and sent their children to a dual medium Hebrew and Arabic school which they helped found, in the hope that better understanding between Jews and Arabs would change
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11 of the 12 Israeli or duel citizenship deaths were caused by militants breaching safe rooms, sometimes with grenades, and shooting the unresisting defenseless residents they found inside (the other death was a safety team member who seemed to be fighting the militants
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Generally, I've seen most mentions of "Hamas militants" interpreted as the al-Qassam Brigades without additional citations, much the same way as mentions of "Israeli soldiers" could be reasonably understood to mean the Israel Defense Forces, as you noted in your later
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Tweet wording "You can see their injuries, hear their cries and feel them trembling from fear as these children are held hostage in their own homes by Hamas terrorists and their parents lie there dead in the next room. These are the terrorists that we are going to
2446:: Per sourcingāparticularly that mentioned aboveāthere is good evidence that Knowledge can neutrally state that the event was a massacre. Further, it seems readily known as a massacre, to a degree (in English) that I'd say crosses the threshold for COMMONNAME. ~
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Aladjem who was carrying the baby collected Negev who had to limp on his injured leg, and they began walking back, the came across other militants and hid behind sand dunes to avoid them, they were eventually found by IDF soldiers who escorted them back to the
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the parent organization of such groups. In my opinion, the more specific we can get with this, the better - so if you come across a more specific military unit designation in your research, I encourage you to include it. (cf. Southern Khan Yunis Battalion in
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the center of the screen, she bends down and hugs him and then they are shown walking along the middle of the screen parallel to the top of the screen, towards right hand side, in a different direct from the people in the foreground (approx 135 degree angle)
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Approximately 6 men, with faces obscured, 4 in foreground in military gear with rifles, 2 seated in background seem to be dressed casually without obvious weapons. They are outside on what looks like a covered patio, interacting with one toddler and a baby
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to "Bashamem stele base", even though it was indeed a base for stele dedicated to Ba(al)shamem ā because the most notable feature of this artefact is the dedication inscription, and not it being more generaly an inscribed base dedicated to Ba(al)shamem).
2642:. Opposition here is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of how titles are chosen on WP. When we use descriptive titles we still rely on usage in RS. In this case the only question to address is which of the two reflects usage in RS better. Whether
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being objective in my argument. As evidence my objectivity and GF I offer my !vote on the Nir Yitzhak move debate where I agree that the name should change because none of the elements of a massacre occurred in that attack. For this attack, however:
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Aladjem was then taken captive with 4 year and 4.5 month old children from a next door neighbour who had been killed, Aladjem said at some point in the March she and the children were abandoned and she managed to go back to the kibbutz with
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policy does not apply directly to the subject of this article, it may contain material that relates to living persons, such as friends and family of persons no longer living, or living persons involved in the subject matter. Unsourced or
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and I donāt think you meant your comment in that sense, because I donāt see that breached? And as I said, the sentences are refāed and I havenāt changed their meaning or taken them out of context, so I donāt believe itās editorialising.
2560:, that's absolutely what we should be calling it. The opposes above seem to be saying we should reject that commonly used descriptor based on detailed analysis of what happened in the event. Obviously there are some sources calling it a
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Kibbutz residents including Ratzinās and his family were first evacuated to Kibbutz Gvulot which was unharmed. They were then moved to Kibbutz Ein Gedi near the Dead See which had housed Holit refugees after earlier,trouble on the Gaza
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I have not assumed that you have acted in bad faith. What I have done is to observe that your preference is not supported by what the articles (overall) are calling it and that your argument is contrary to the prevailing policy
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Anat and three other unarmed residents managed to save the woman by pulling her out of the a window of her house, and returned safely to her own house, while her parents managed to wet the surrounding are to stop the fire from
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The summaries are mine. Although I do tone down some of emotion while Iām summarising, that is not my main aim, so the summaries arenāt completely wikified. I do the wikification as Iām writing the article from the toned down
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Grainy, blurry, wide-angle video, faces and body features not recognizable except at high level even where not obscured, where this description uses possibly/seems it because the picture is to blurry to state a feature with
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these articles come from coverage of what happens to people, and these stories are spread over several resources. So I start these articles by puttingv together the C&H list to keep track of what happened to the people.
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Anat's father, Yosef Rozhansky (67) lost his leg, and her Mother Alla and youngest daughters, Ofek, were seriously injured, her grandmother was less injured but still hospitalized, the rest of the family only had minor
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Shacharās brother recounted how there great-grandmother is also known to have shielded her child (their grandmother) with her body in 1919 in what now the Ukraine by pushing her under the bed and hiding her as she was
1767:. That would be ok if there was a "significant majority" of sources that called it that, but there aren't. Of the sources that were quoted for SIGCOV at the article's AfD, most used the word "attack" (emphasis mine):
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For an hour after the killing Rotem remain under his motherās body struggling to breath from smoke. He then pushed her off and found shelter in a laundry room, when the militants returned he again hid under bloody
5246:, thank you for your edit of the article where you removed the sentence "His family are calling for a cease fire, as they are certain he would" from the main image caption with the edit summary "editorializing".
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The clear majoritarian language for this event in the sources aligns with the proposed move. The arguments against it appear to rely more on independent reasoning over the nature of the event, not the sourcing.
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A female neighbour who had two children was killed in front of the children, the children and an unrelated female neighbour were then taken Ć s hostage, but the woman managed to get back to the kibbutz the same
2217:"Terrorist" and "Freedom Fighter" are ideologically POV words referring to the same group of people with subjective biases in the way each is applied. Militant provides a more neutral word to bridge this bias.
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4 of them arose from an attempted but unsuccessful breach of a saferoom with a grenade where shrapnel entered under the door and injured 3 elderly people and a child, out of the 4 adults and 4 children in the
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At 1;30 militants broke in, killed the neighbour she was hiding with, took her captive, and brought her Kaploun-Vitalās 4-year, and 4.5 month old boys, the three of the where then marched through the kibbutz
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Avner Gvaryahu, the executive director of Breaking the Silence (of which Noy is a member) said that all human rights groups have members who were killed, injured, kidnapped and traumatized during the attacks.
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When they arrived in Gaza, Aledjem said that she and the children were,left unguarded, at which point she took the opportunity to start walking back, avoiding militants they passed by hiding behind sandunes
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Militants tried to breach their safe room by throwing a grenade at the door, do door was not breached but shrapnel from under the door entered and severely injured the three elderly people and the youngest
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Disagreeing with the moral logic that killing Hamas militants in Gaza with its concomitant innocent live,lost would make,Israel safer, because this had been argued and done before and Israel was not safer
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In foreground several military seeming people (gender canāt be determined fully, possibly men by gait) possibly carrying weapons, with faces obscured, are walking off the bottom left corner of the screen
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I didn't know. I thought it could have been dedicated employees (I forgot the commune nature), maybe a military squad? How many? You may assume the knowledge, I'm just outside eyes. Have a nice one.
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Her brother is unable to reconcile the core principles of peace and reconciliation with their Arab neighbors and friends by which his sister and brother-in-law lived and the manner of their deaths.
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Militants shot at the metal shutters of the safe rooms to determine if there were people inside, mainly by the cries of the children, Daniel barely managed to keep quiet when his shutters were shot
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source (although there is some left which I remove in writing the article). Iāve become used to replacing terrorist in resources with militant in my summaries and similarly with massacre to attack.
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They say the video is of Avital Aledjem in a blue and pink jacket walking to and embracing a child while holding another child, with gunmen seen walking away, apparently near the Gaza border fence
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She had protected her son from militant bullets with her body. As Hamas militants broke into there safe room Shacher Mathias ordered her son to get under a thick blanket and lay on top of him
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The brother compared the killing to a program and called for a fierce campaign against Hamas. āWe donāt want anyone else harmed, but God you have to defend yourself. You canāt let this go.ā
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At one point in the afternoon the militants started burning houses to smoke out and kill any remaining residents, Rotem was advised to stay where he was, he was covered in soot when rescued
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Itās should be security team (team of residents on standby too defend the kibbutz). Thanks for spotting this. Do you think itās necessary to explain the concept? None of the sources do.
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Alajem and the children were used as shields as the militants moved from house to house, with "destruction and blood everywhere", the Miltants continuing to set house and vehicles alight
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The takeaway here is that there are many reasons why attack may used more than massacre. But to use the numerical argument to misname what is objectively a massacre is not encyclopedic.
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You used the full name in the text, but left the infobox as "Al-Qassam Brigade". Would that be the normal usage i.e. mention the full name once, and use the abbreviated name thereafter?
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Based on the geographical patterns I've observed above, I'd speculate that a battalion of the Rafah Brigade is responsible for this massacre, but without any references that's pure
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According to Noy, Hayim was "slaughtered" in a hail of bullets protecting his neighbour with his body, but he would not have wanted innocent people to die in revenge for his death
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The "release" claimed by Hamas and depicted in the video couldnāt have happened on 11/10/23 as claimed by Hamas/Al Jazeera, because Aladjem and the children returned on 7/10/23
2585:: as has been pointed out several times since November-ish, sources simply don't refer to this as a massacre, but as an attack. Thus the current titled is loaded and not NPOV.
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killed in an airplane crash, they were murdered one by one. Raped and kidnapped,ā he said. āThe retaliation weāre expecting is literally the annihilation of the entire strip.ā
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Shachar was speaking on the phone to Troen moments before she and her Husband, Shlomi, were shot to death. She said she heard glass breaking, gunshots and Arabic being spoken
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But Negev kept screaming that he didnāt want to go, till the Hamas militant carrying him dropped the boy and told them āThatās it! Now you go!ā And entered Gaza without them
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The fact of Holocaust survivors who escaped to Israel for protection against their suffering, being made do suffer similarly again, made the Israeli shock and anger worse.
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I donāt believe the numerical argument "wins" over the descriptive one, but since some do, to assist the discussion, I have done the following analysis of all The sources:
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Whatever the article is named, what happened at this event is clearly what would in English be described as a massacre by any objective standard, supported by references.
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When they heard that their next door neighbour had been killed and her daughter was hiding in a closet, Naama encouraged Gideon to save the child, which he managed to do
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Some editorial policy may not allow the use of "massacre" for various reasons which may be ideological or not. if ideologically based Knowledge shouldnāt be following it
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successful shot the unresisting defenseless occupants. In several cases they returned to houses and set them alight to force the occupants to exit so they could be shot.
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Hayim was one of the few ex-IDF soldiers who testified for Breaking the silence, which is banned from schools and vilified by the government for its human rights work.
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His sisters, Shir, 21, and Shakked, 19 were also on the kibbutz hiding in their own safe rooms, but because of intermittent signal he was unsure they were alive
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Can you provide evidence that massacre is COMMONNAME? So far, all evidence, including that by Ayenaee, is that "attack" is more commonly used than "massacre".
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1385:, individual terrorists, incidents and related subjects on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the
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Chagin spent the day Iām her safe room which is also her bedroom, she communicated by text with Daniel who uneremphasisedmwhat was happening to not worry her
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No one has to agree with me, but neither should they mischaracterise what Iāve said. The closer can decide on how convincing or otherwise my arguments are.
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15 minutes after the killing he tweeted āI love you all just in case. Mumās body is on me" and then soon after āI am going to pass out, no air, bombs.ā
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Using text family members provided him with advice on how to treat his injury, to stay quiet and encouraged him until he was saved by the IDF at 4:30
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2 of them arose from breaches of saferooms and killing of the unresisting defenseless residents inside, with 2 injured in these shootings.
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Abi Korin (56) moved to Israel fro Buenos Aires in the 1980s. He was a member of the kibbutz safety team and died protecting the kibbutz
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None of the residents are certain whether they want to return to the kibbutz, children in particular have expressed fear of going back
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Ronit Rudman Sultan (55), was killed at Holit with her husband Rolan. She lived in Israel for 35 years after moving from Buenos Aires
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Adi Kaploun-Vital a neighbour of Katsman, was killed in front of her 4-year, and 4.5-month old children who were also taken captive
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Hamas militants broke into her house and shot her in front of her sons Negev (4) and Eschel (4.5 months), and held the sons captive
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Gardener Daniel Kukushkin lived in his own house by himself, while his mother lived by herself on the other side of the kibbutz.
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