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1160:. These show that the standard treatment for high methanol toxicity is the introduction of additional ethanol into the human body. The point is, during this time, the preference of the human body enzymes for ethanol processing over methanol processing, that contributes to the reduction of the highly poisonous methanol metabolites production, is further enhanced by the preferential evaporation (elimination through the lungs, by breathing) of the blood methanol. In other words, the methanol being a smaller and more readily evaporated molecule than ethanol, contributes to the therapeutic effects of using ethanol as an antidote for methanol poisoning. 365: 995:(although he wouldn't the word 'hogwash') and as stated above, the best thing is not to over-indulge, but if you do... I recommend, eating a banana, taking a multi-vitamin and a couple aspirin BEFORE you start drinking. If you forget, then do it in the morning and drink lots of agua (something you should do while you're drinking also, they say one glass of water per drink is best). If you really overdo it and feel naseous, for God's sake, let it go and get that leftover alcohol out of your system asap (before you take your vitamins etc of course). 465: 275: 1152:
smell of the alcohols can readily be detected in someone's breath, and the exhaled alcohol levels can be linked to the blood alcohol levels, which is a basic principle the breath-analyzers use. The references for this (how easily water evaporates, compared to ethanol and methanol) are fairly easy to find, so I wouldn't waste any more space for this (even a high school level experiment can prove this). Instead, I would recommend these two references:
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was placed in the article after several people complained that 'hair of the dog' treatments didn't work and that therefore the article ought to be deleted. They didn't seem to understand the difference between the facts about a cultural concept and the absolute truth of the concept. Notice restored
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Alcolhol has traditionally been used as an anaesthetic. I presume due to it´s depressive effect on the brain, as described in the article. Of course, this can be used to lessen the pain, head-ache and maybe also psycholygical moodyness coused by hangover. It also makes it easier for the poor drunkard
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I was trying to get across the point that homeopathy, while treating 'like with like', generally treats ailments with an extreme dilution of something entirely different - although something which apparently produces the same symptoms in higher concentrations. I've reduced the controversial words a
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I honestly don't know how drunk the people that wrote this article were, but several problems jump out right away. For one, the article is grammatically deficient. For two, the phrase is incomplete. Nobody's going to understand "Hair of the dog." The phrase is, "a hair of the dog that bit you." And
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I found a source, and listed it. Someone may clean it up, if they want, but the phrase is listed in E. Cobham Brewer's Dictionary of Phrase and Fable (1898) (too old for general use?), attributed to a poem by Aristophanes. It's also in common use in TV and literature... I found some references in
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I feel like I have to add that Methanol, being a much lighter molecule than Ethanol, more readily evaporates. Evaporation is one of the mechanisms the body uses to eliminate both ethanol and methanol, as both of these evaporate more readily than water. This requires no special references, as the
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Indeed. One of the multiple causes of a hangover is the breaking of methanol (present in small amounts in alcoholic beverages) by the liver. Ethanol blocks the metabolism of methanol (ethanol is used by medics in case of methanol intoxication). However, by drinking alcoholic beverage, you add up
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Wow, I can't believe I'm doing this, but just in case anyone has left any doubt, or people couldn't interpret the nerd-speak, IT DOESN'T WORK. It has no scientific basis and has nothing to do with vaccines, because it doesn't involve viruses or bacteria. Any doctor will tell you it's hogwash
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Having lived in Costa Rica, I have never heard the phrases discussed here, which is not to say they aren't used. Still, YOU SHOULD CITE SOME SOURCES. The phrase I HAVE heard is "un pelo del perro que te mordiĂł" --which means, guess what? A hair of the dog that bit you.
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While I agree that perhaps origins and accuracy of the phrase might need to be checked, the article should definitely stay. Of course this is not a "cure" for a hangover, everyone knows that, but people do it. Linking to the hangover article might be a good idea.
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Actually, a newspaper article I read recently claimed that ethanol metabolisation, if constantly applied, will allow for the methanol to be removed by other means, i. e. just excreted via breath and urine. A quick Google search brought this, for
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The cure may have originated in Canaan, 1200 BCE. Archaeologists have found a Canaanite text concerning "a god getting drunk and having to be carried home to bed." At the end of the text was a recipe for a hangover cure, perhaps the original
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is largely based on this idea, or more accurately it's reverse," because, despite several attempts, I couldn't clarify what was being stated here. Prevention rather than cure was the best I could come up with, but I wasn't at all confident.
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The article is pretty hairy in general. I broke up the last sentence of the first paragraph. But, what does it mean that the idea may never have been put into practice? People talked about making dog-hair cures, but never actually did
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This sentence does not make scientific sense: "Some researchers have suggested that ethanol may help dilute other alcohols that cause many of the hangover symptoms, but no controlled studies have been carried out."
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I've heard and read the term mentioned in an economic context several times, in critic of inflationary policies (increasing state debt in order to solve the economic problems caused by the deficite). Example:
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This page is about Hair of the Dog. The only mention of Homeopathic cures is to compare and contrast them. This is not the place to argue about how and whether homeopathic cures work. --
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Regarding the production of similar symptoms. One does not have to believe in the efficaciousness of homeopathy, to realize that capsium, in volume, can produce watery eyes and nose.
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I also put a little distance between vaccination and homeopathy. Perhaps that reflects a bias on my part, but I think the edits themselves are NPOV. I removed the last clause of "
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I believe that the editor who removed the text below was correct. It does not relate to the theory about consuming alcohol to cure a hangover. It is not sympathetic magic. --
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Wy was my reference to The Shining removed?? I could agree about the werewolf part not being relevant, but why the whole reference itsef is less relevant than the others??? --
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The assertion ""It is a shortened form of the phrase "The Hair of the Cocker Spaniel That Bit Your Hand"."" seems gratuitous. It reads to me as if someone were having a joke.
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The recipe was translated as: "What is to be put on his forehead: hairs of a dog, and the head of the PQQ and its shoot he is to drink mixed together with fresh olive oil."
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This sentence does not make scientific sense: "Medically, consuming alcohol may help with mitigating the headache of a hangover by depressing the central nervous system".
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Reverted the change to remove the pop culture references, seemed silly to remove them in the first place though I think it should be trimmed up a little bit.
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There are a few theories on how "hair of the dog" works, but little information about whether it does or does not work, or studies to that effect.
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I removed ""Hair O' The Dog" is a small chain of liquor and fine wine stores in Easton, MD, USA" from Notes. Other uses of the phrase, if they are
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Alcohol depresses the CNS. The sentence does not explain why drinking more alcohol once hungover improves things with a the depression of the CNS?
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Interestly, the phrase, "or, more acurately, it's reverse" actually makes more sense to me than the edited version. The original concept is:
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Medical professionals should be consulted about the proper treatment for hangovers, alcohol withdrawal, and withdrawal from other drugs.
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Can we give examples where this is used in the media? I think in Monkey Island 3 this term was used literally, but I'm not sure.
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Of course, whether you believe that either vaccines or homeopathy work according to that concept is an indepedent discussion.
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Agreed, and also the comment about hands of the same size... have reverted these two edits by anonymous user 128.83.205.99.
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Two more detailed explanations: The first referrs to a poem credited to a Greek comic dramatist Aristophanes (448-387 BC):
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is not necessary here, nor is the debate. If there is factual dispute about homeopathy, that should be dealt with in the
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is a charged word. The amounts are measured, small, but measured. See Homeopathic Pharmacopia of United States, HPUS. --
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to fall asleep. The use may be unwise, but to explicitly state that the method doesn´n work is to go too far.
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So, what the article is saying is that with homeopathic medicine & vaccines, the concept is reversed:
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The "in popular culture" was just a list of any time anyone ever heard the phase used, so i blanked it.
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and meet the other Knowledge (XXG) criteria should be placed in their own article and listed on the
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as for the references to Latin, etc., it would be nice if anyone could actually cite some sources!
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https://www.wirenewsfax.com/emergency-in-vietnam-doctors-treat-alcohol-poisoning-with-beer-cans
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I agree about not deleting, but it has to be mentioned clearly that this practice is dubious.--
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I think that last sentence is a run-on. If it's not, it's so long I can't tell for sure. Oi.
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This page does not conform to Knowledge (XXG)'s standards. I highly recommend cleaning it up.
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Please, this is not an article about homeopathy. Keep it short and sweet with links. --
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Citations have been inserted into the article, but they do not link to any references.
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various TV show titles, "Gone with the Wind" (novel), and William Hazlitt's work.
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Delirium Tremens is a syndrome due to alcohol withdrawal Not a symptom.
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This was quoted by German Der Spiegel. It does appear to make sense.
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I would suggest a reference before considering it for inclusion.
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methanol in the process so it is only a temporary relief.
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