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cowardly to actually engage in combat himself. It is also a simple fact that he almost single-handedly ruined Lebanon’s chance to be anything other than a puppet state. He either cared far more about Iran than Lebanon, or got completely played by Iran like an imbecile. Either way, his cause was a complete failure that destroyed Lebanon and murdered countless innocents. Notably, the article conveniently omits the horrific impact his maniacal radicalism had on his own country. Finally, any semblance of legitimacy this article might have otherwise had is destroyed by its listing of known, multi-sourced, well-documented historical facts as mere “allegations.” Who wrote this — the Public Relations Director for Hezbollah? This article is one of the reasons reasonable, intelligent people don’t take Knowledge seriously. Be better than this.
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least appropriate to indicate a) that there is some controversy on this matter, b) what the state of evidence is; c) what the sources for this evidence are. I note that neoconservative commentators such as Martin Kramer are adamant that there is indeed such a link, and that Hezbollah's reaction to his assassination 'proves' this. I assume it isn't Knowledge's policy to simply re-state what people like Martin Kramer think as fact, but to give an informed and neutral presentation of the known knowns, and known unknowns. If you get my drift.
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into the whole master of terror thing created by washingthon i mean he was a terrorist and got what he deserved but i highly doubt he was responsible for everything they say about him.I mean seriously hes like something out of a comic book if you believe everything in the article. u kno the comic book villian type lol.
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This article is a joke. “Guerrilla warfare”? Wrong. Terrorism. He was a cowardly butcher who attacked civilian targets and peace keepers. He manipulated less fortunate people into committing suicide (a sin in his religion, to the extent he believed in anything other than himself), yet he was too
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article which provides some more biographical information that could be useful to the article's development. Please note that I downgraded the rating from B class to Start class. It's missing a lot of information, particularly on the responses to his death in the Lebanese community. I'll try to post
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I highly doubt that Olmert met privately with Dagan to congratulate him for the death of Mughniyah. Israel denies involvement in the assassination and Syria has not even claimed that they were. Even if it were true, and I there is no reason to believe that it is, it seems highly unlikely that the
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In the ensuing media coverage following his death, I've heard a few network news terrorism experts bandy about the idea that Mugniyah was "bin Laden's role model", or something to that effect. Is there any evidence, biographical, or statement-wise, that would lend any credibility to this, or is it
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There is no question that William Buckley was the CIA station chief in Beiruit at the time of his kidnapping or that this was the reason for his kidnapping. This has been published in numerous books and articles. The removal of his position and replacing it by the generic "US Army Colonel" seems
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this article stinks even by wikipedias standards . i suggest pulling it all down and just putting what he was when he died( by whom no one knows lol). considering alot of it is speculation and stuff its like reading a spy fiction article . moreover i am pretty sure the israelis themselves dont buy
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Simple question. According to Judith Palmer Harik (Hezbollah: The Changing Face of Terrorism, IB Tauris, 2005), "No party has substantiated the link between Mugniyeh and Hezbollah to this day" (p 193). So, given that the article opens with a bald assertion about this link, it would surely be at
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At best Mughniyeh's affiliation with Fatah and Force 17 was at a very long time (early 1980s) before the Karin A attempt happened (in 2002), and his affiliation was in Lebanon, not the territories. The introduction to this section (Organizational Affiliation) needs modifying unless a source to
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He's the operational head of Hezbollah, i.e. is responsible for planning and orchestrating its most heinous terrorist assaults. He's not a spokesman, a la Suleiman Abu Gheith, or a figurehead, such as UBL, or Hassan Nasrallah, or a "spiritual" leader, in the mold of Fadlallah or the late-and
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Taking explicit credit for these terrorist operations is antithetical to the very demands of his job, which is why it is so difficult to pin him down. The same problem exists for the operational heads of other terrorist organizations, e.g. Saif al-Adl, or Mohammed Deif.
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huh, why? because george bush and the jews said so? because he fought for libirating his country ,as well as the world, from the jews and the american conquerers? imad mughniyah is a great person and his people loves him so mush and all the free world loves him.
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How can it be that this man led a life of hatred for the USA and never revealed the reason behind his hatred? Did Americans kill his parents? Surely someone knows the answer and has written about it. This article needs to tell a little more about the man.
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It's written in the above section that Israel has denied any allegation for being involved in the assassination of mornia. However, I don't remember such denial. Instead, Israel didn't acknowledge nor did it deny any involvement in the killing of mornia.
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This article contains a lot of 'alleges', 'suspected of' and 'speculated that' that aren't attributed to sources. Unless something has been confirmed to be true by general consensus we need cites and all opinions attributed to people or organisations.
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He was involved with the hijacking of TWA Flight 847 which led to a murder of Robert Stethem and help with many other terrorist activities as well, if you don't think what he did is bad then something's wrong with you, how old are you, really kid?
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The most glaring difference is "liberation" vs. "occupation", and I'm confident that the current Knowledge version is wrong. (There are also minor differences I chose not to highlight: a/an, spelling of Hezbollah/Hizballah.)
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The other terrorist attacks are generally ascribed to him because of his leading-although somewhat murky-leadership position in Hezbollah, and his service on the Shura Council, ties to the current Iranian regime, etc...
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Well, I don't think anyone took him aside and interviewed him for a tell-all book or anything. I don't think his reasons for engaging in terrorist activities is known at this moment, but it can probably be speculated.
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That being said, his orchestration and involvement in the July 14, 1985 hijacking of TWA Flight 847-and murder of Robert Stethem-has been documented extensively, i.e. eyewitness accounts, film footage, etc...
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i would take whatever the canadian news agencies say with a grain of salt if you want something go for cnn ,yedeeot( the israeli news agency) , afp , bbc , and reuters thats about it the othrs are full of
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Yes, that is true. An article in the UK Telegraph appears to have mistakenly written that a CIA station chief was killed in the blast that killed Mugniyah; this has not been repeated or confirmed.
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Every time something blows up and we don't know who did it, a rumour goes around that Mugniyeh is behind it. Please let's leave out the rumours, especially the unattributed rumours.
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reprinted at the Tayyar site is also a good one at providing an overview of the allegations against him and the lack of information substantiating his involvement in most of them.
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I do not not understand the objection to this. The CIA station chief was Bill Buckley, who was kidnapped in 1984 and the Islamic Jihad Organization announced his death in 1985.
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He was the son of Ayatullah Muhammad Jawad Mughniyya one of the great Shia scholars who wrote a lot of books in Islamic subjects and was a professor in Shia Islamic seminary.
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He was the son of Ayatullah Muhammad Jawad Mughniyya one of the great Shia scholars who wrote a lot of books in Islamic subjects and was a professor in Shia Islamic seminary.
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Since he's dead and most of the information is unconfirmed speculation and the fact that there will be no more news about him, it's time to close and shelve this article
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because the New Times link is dead and the NYT story does not even mention Mugniyah. (The Islamic Liberation Organization, now extinct, was an Egypt-based Sunni group.)
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The biography section names William Francis Buckley as a U.S. Army Colonel. While he was a military officer, he was the CIA station chief at the time of his death.
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Under Organizational Affiliation, it's alleged he was involved in the Karin A affair to smuggle arms into the occupied Palestinian Territories in 2002.
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It sounded strange to me, since shia and sunni hate each other... sometimes however they may work togheter, like Hamas and Hezbollah. Today I read in
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about a meeting between Mugniyah and Osama bin Laden, Khartoum 1995. You have any other information on this? Should we add it to the article?
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just people trying to puff up his death as some kind of blow to terrorist morale???
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