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1318:"In the main draw, Sousa lost in straight sets to Florian Mayer the 1st round. This prompted him to return into the top 100" As written this feels strange; losing in the first round promotes you to the top 100? I get that it was due to passing qualifying, but it can all be structured better.
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1280:"He stills practices there, as of 2014" That's all well and good, but given that's it a dated sentence that would have to be progressively updated, I'd replace it with something more permanent, such as "...where he still practiced after joining the ATP Tour."
1277:"until he was 14, when he decided to skip football and medicine to pursue a professional tennis career." this is the first mention of medicine, which feels jarring. if it was another career he was looking into growing up, then make that more clear earlier on.
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709:Need images
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1451:Thank you
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