498:) with him for over a period of two years now, and in working with Jonathan Gleich on his autobiography, I realized what I was dealing with was a modern day Renaissance Man. The weight loss was only a part of his life. I wanted to include the parts of his life on Knowledge (XXG) that are not being covered in the book and that have become part of the culture of New York City. He is well known in the Segway community for fighting the traffic violations in court. He also has a following for his over-the-top Halloween and Mermaid Day parade costumes. He's frequently called by several journalists in the city for his opinions and soundbites. This is why I believe he should have a Knowledge (XXG) entry and and should be deemed notable.
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If I thought that there was the makings of a good article here, I'd be more than happy to help. But there's nothing here showing anything beyond lap band surgery (not a sign of notability), 80s era BBS ownership (not a sign of notability), a whole lot of traffic tickets (not a sign of notability),
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Jonathan with his continued riding of his segway to get to work, and still being ticketed is a protest to get segways legal in NYC, when one person stands defiant against a city, it Is
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I did continue to work in my user space and believed I had found enough information (in fact, you actually helped me in locating the
Virtual Macintosh article by Don Crabb of The Chicago Sun Times). I then went and asked for reviews and help
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and 1st and 3rd place finishes in a local parade (not a sign of notability). I'm sure his family and friends think he's a wonderful guy—but that's not a sign of notability, either.
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