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This article is quite biased towards the conclusion that Stalin was anti-semitic, rather than being a balanced recounting of the topic itself. Please indulge me, as I've noticed quite a lot of examples of this:
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1469:This quote
1250:Great Purge
1175:Early years
148:free images
31:not a forum
2382:Categories
2357:In Summary
2243:deliberate
2156:because of
1777:WP:PRECISE
1580:The source
1442:Kaganovich
1380:References
661:Interfaith
2065:Menshevik
2061:Bolshevik
1760:Eldomtom2
1467:fighting?
324:Socialism
315:socialism
271:Socialism
88:if needed
71:Be polite
21:talk page
2366:Ponanzaa
2320:Svetlana
2232:Twilight
2091:Bundists
2049:Zinoviev
1758:, etc.--
1708:Favonian
1629:Abovesky
1367:See also
783:inactive
731:Religion
709:Religion
656:Religion
199:365Â days
186:Archives
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2154:Lenin,
2150:Stalin
2045:Kamenev
1969:, with
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1796:Support
1773:Support
1744:Support
1502:forgery
1424:47,548
1303:17,642
1168:33,182
1161:History
1140:Section
1081:on the
976:on the
887:on the
860:Judaism
851:Judaism
807:Judaism
758:on the
571:on the
490:History
456:on the
351:on the
242:B-class
154:WPÂ refs
142:scholar
2074:pogrom
1959:Polish
1955:French
1909:anyone
1905:Jewish
1801:Centre
1421:47,548
1413:1,740
1400:1,234
1361:7,227
1348:5,100
1333:5,504
1325:Purges
1318:5,694
1310:Israel
1273:3,066
1258:2,426
1243:1,025
1228:1,428
1213:8,667
1198:4,734
1183:2,126
1155:3,908
1142:total
486:Russia
248:scale.
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2328:Gulag
2289:dacha
2285:Minsk
2230:book
2099:Letts
2095:Poles
2005:ch. 1
1927:with
1807:Right
1418:Total
1410:1,740
1397:1,234
1358:7,227
1345:5,100
1330:5,504
1315:5,694
1300:1,344
1270:3,066
1255:2,426
1240:1,025
1225:1,428
1195:4,734
1180:2,126
1152:3,908
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2063:and
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1957:and
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718:good
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