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In the United States, for a drink to be legally called a "cola", it must contain all sorts of ingredients. Drinks that have some modification have to have the spelling changed, viz. the unsuccessful drinks called some form of "Kola" or "Qola" (the latter had honey). Caramel coloring, for example, is
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I don't mean to pick nits, but the part about carbonating water at home with yeast seems to replace "open source" with the concept of "homespun" Pretty much any ingredient, even yeast, is going to be closed source at some level--just because you use a machine to carbonate water does not mean that you
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I've done a batch... it's great... although I went a little heavy on the lime and the citric acid... tastes very much like cola candies (gummy bottles). I live in the middle of greenwhich village NYC so essential oils are available everywhere. I recommand the shop Aphrodisia on Bleecker St, they have
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OpenCola is one drink. I don't think it has been made for some years. It was made to prove a point, rather than to be a serious product. Others, such as Cube Cola, are still available today and are distributed (as the flavouring syrup) beyond their small manufacturers. The fact that the WP OpenCola
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removed the templates myself, on the basis of no strong support for a merge (even the original proposer "would even suggest to not merge"). I feel it's better to tidy up the page rather than leave the banners in place for years due to lack of interest. If anyone does want to merge these articles,
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I think the point is that the RECIPE is what is covered by the GPL. The COLA is a product produced by the RECIPE. Like the web pages served from a web server - the server software may be GPL'd but that doesn't mean that all the pages it serves are GPL - They can be a proprietary as you like.
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I don't even think the license applies and I can't believe that you people are that hung up on it. If you read the GPL, you'll see that it mentions the word "software" 35 times and the words "source code" 11 times. It makes no mention of "food" "beverage" or "recipe." It's a joke.
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required. The sweetener used to have to be sugar, though that didn't stop the major manufacturers from switching to corn syrup without a pause. WHERE is the KOLA NUT extract in this recipe? (Headline comes from what a friend's son said when I poured him some
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The Australian Tea Tree Association, a group that promotes the interests of Australian tea tree oil producers, exporters and manufacturers issued a letter that questioned the study and called on the New England Journal of Medicine for a retraction (ATTIA).
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how can one distinguish between a recipe and say a piece of html code? the only difference is the performer of the instructions: human and computer. so, if recipe is not a "source code", then manually copied/'painted' html code shouldn't be either..:)
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Do you mean you think it's not a license violation or you think that no one cares enough to make an issue of it? As is, I can copy the recipe off the (GFDL) Knowledge (XXG) and release a derivative under a proprietary license, AIUI.
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don't know what or how much of the ingredient you are putting in. In other terms, Ubuntu is open source, but using Ubuntu does not mean you wrote the operating system on your computer yourself. You may not even know how it works.
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I (as the one who proposed the merge) have to agree with you. I missed this slight difference because of my bad english. I originaly decided to suggest the merge in this direction mostly because of the Language-Links. I
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I don't think warnings like "DO NOT USE art-grade gum arabic" are appropriate. This is not an encyclopedia, not an instruction manual. I would go so far as to say that no sentence should be in the imperative mood.
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There must be a wholesale market for these product. I use phosphoric acid as a fertilizer in my acuarium, and ordered it through a farmacy, 1kg cost about 10USD. You can imagine where I get the water from :-).
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What? You can't distribute a derivative of a GFDL document under a proprietary license. The relevant quote is "provided that you release the Modified Version under precisely this License". —
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Has anyone here actually made a batch of OpenCola? I've tried to find the ingredients but have gad no luck. If anyone knows where to find them, post it here or leave me a comment on my
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A "source" is where something comes from and a recipe is a source and as it is free to share while most corporations keep it a secret the name freely applies, even if it were a misnomer
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would make the latter article unbalanced and too long. And if we wanted more content on Cube Cola or some future "open" cola, then they would have to go into the merged article also.
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every oil you can think of, phosphoric and citric acid and food grade arabic gum. Price is okay, I made it to break-even with coke bottles sold in stores.
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I'm not the person who added the above quote, but I have added a reworded version of it, plus references to US and Canadian copyright law.
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I think the presence of the actual recipe here is verging on ridiculous. I've had similar simple recipes removed for this reason from the
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Since this has been open for over a year-and-a-half without comment, and nenntmichruhigip is probably not monitoring this page,
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The legal grounds for this are dubious however, as recipes are exempted from copyright as they are techniques, not artworks.
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It doesn't need to be tested. If recipes can not be copyrighted then they can not be copyrighted. End of story. --
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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majority, so there is currently no german article about open-source cola – seems like no one realy cares...
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can we get an uninvolved editor to close the discussion and remove the merge templates, please?
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The New England Journal of Medicine has so far not replied and has not retracted the study."
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Oppose merge. As Andy says above, OpenCola is but one example. Putting all the
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article is older doesn't change this, nor does the Cory Doctorow fanboy effect.
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Why not make a wiki book with proper instructions to OpenCola and link to it?
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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I'd love to see an "open" Dr Pepper taste-alike recipe -
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then please re-template and re-open the discussion.
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