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The fourth description is on page 173: "The Lady was a little more or less than one meter tall and was dressed in white. Her skirt was white and gold with little strings running along and across and it was short, that is, it didn't go down to her feet. The coat was white not gold. White cloak, which
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Mcorrlo adds the following: The jacket had two or three strings on the cuffs. She had a golden cord around her neck, which ended with a small ball; she had very small yellow buttons (or rings) in her ears. In her hands she carried a rosary of white beads, also luminous, which ended in a cross.
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The part about how the children described our lady is already described above. The children described her as "a Lady more brilliant than the Sun". Also the
English version does not say skirt but dress. The book never mentions a skirt, I have the same book in English language and it says completely
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The fourth description is on page 30: "Then they saw a woman on top of a carrasqueira, dressed in white, with white socks on her feet, a white gold skirt, a white coat, a white cloak, which she wore over her head, the cloak was not gold and the skirt was all gold across it, it had a gold cord and
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He is just vandalizing. All he has to do is read the books ! I remember you the apparition is not a dogma, catholics do not have to believe it. If you read the book , free book, "Documentação Crítica de Fátima: seleção de documentos (1917-1930)" (a PDF) by the Church itself, you will find
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The descritions of the lady you are talking about are later descriptions. I am talking about the first descriptions, the very first descriptions. I do not know about a english version of the "documentation" (exists?) and if it is says "dress" and "completely different things" is a wrong
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The second description is on page 79: "this Lady was dressed in white and had a blue cloak over her head; She had her hands on her chest, palms to her chest underneath each other. Her skirt was white and long and reached her feet; it seems to her that the white skirt and coat were not
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The user has formed a false description that the sources do not contain and says that it is the primary description of the Lady, the primary account in fact is the first description of the Lady made in page 173. There is the first description of the Lady said by Lúcia.
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But page 173 of the book "Documentação Crítica de Fátima Seleção de documentos (1917-1930)" says the following in
Portuguese language: "Tell Lúcia that Senhora, que ela e seus primos viram, tinha um a little more or less than a meter tall and came dressed in white."
1758:"depois viram uma mulher em cima duma carrasqueira, vestida de branco, nos pés meias brancas, saia branca dourada, casaco branco, manto branco, que trazia pela cabeça, o manto não era dourado e a saia era toda dourada a atravessar, trazia um cordão de ouro "
1764:"then they saw a woman on top of a carrasqueira, dressed in white, with white socks on her feet, a white gold skirt, a white coat, a white cloak, which she wore over her head, the cloak was not gold and the skirt was all gold across, it had a string of gold"
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I remove the thing about Manuel Nunes Formigão, since that is in the article above, please read the article before repeating the same thing, why repeat it twice? And about the description of the Lady there are many in the book. I will put many of them here.
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I agree with using a neutral name for the
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went from the head to the edge of the skirt, gold in small strings from top to bottom and across, at the edges the gold was closer. The coat had two or three little golden cords on the cuffs. There was no belt, no ribbon, no waistband."
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The third description is on page 83: "The lady was young, she had a tight skirt. She doesn't know what a pleated skirt is, and she has seen ladies with pleated skirts but the lady's dress was not. She didn't notice if the dress was
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My conclusion is that you are a vandal trying to completely erase something that does not fit your vision of things. Again, I recomend you read the books, and stop vandalizing the page.Sorry, but I am reverting again. ~~~~
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