Talk:La Patilla - Knowledge (XXG)

2088:"Laziness" is not the same as unreliability, which is the subject of the discussion here. The content in these articles come originally from, taking Breitbart and the US as an example, outlets such as The Washington Post, the American Bar Association, Hollywood Reporter and The Hill, so strictly speaking about reliability if doesn't matter that Breitbart or unreliable sources are only mentioned, even if we can all agree that it is not optimal. Arguably the most problematic story was the one about the Venezuelan migrants, which has been retracted at least once. 3053:, particularly when one of the most controversial articles was later retracted (as an outlet with editorial oversight does), and WP:VENRS already acknowledged the situation, providing the same articles that you are sharing here. A passing mention as a "satirical website", when the article in question is precisely about humor regarding hyperinflation, is not a sample of the website's reliability as a whole either. Unreliability means systematic and persistent issues, which is not the case here. -- 2831:

to justify their opinion. You don’t need to conduct an RfC to override anything written on the VENRS page. The content of the page "has not been thoroughly vetted by the community. Some essays represent widespread norms; others only represent minority viewpoints". The main classifying criteria used on the VENRS page appears to be the editors’ opinion of the media outlet's attitude towards the Venezuelan government. Compare that with how sources are assessed at the perennial sources noticeboard.

243: 222: 3528:) why I don't enjoy being drug in to this via ping. An editor only has to cast their eyes briefly over a few sections to start finding issues, and it's always a time sink. RFCs at the RS noticeboard will bring in more knowledgeable editors, who are less likely to tolerate such or engage in lengthy and futile discussions. An unsuspecting editor can't even read the article for an accurate description of the news source, and everywhere one looks there is POV that needs to be addressed. 2394: 3129: 2533: 2274: 946: 809: 712: 2657:

unreliable; we can certainly discuss if a stance or connections have led to misinformation. If they repost articles from other sources, those articles should be considered as coming from the other source and assessed for reliability per the other source. I do not think their headlines are particularly more scandalous than other decent sources, I do not think it is worth noting to take caution with headlines.

253: 2361: 191: 2411:. Editors note that La Patilla republishes articles from deprecated and blacklisted sources while also recognizing that other high-quality Venezuelan sources exist. As a result, La Patilla is considered marginally reliable and generally does not qualify as a "high-quality source" for the purpose of substantiating exceptional claims in these topic areas. Editors perceive La Patilla to be 1182:, stating "Key independent media include Radio Fe y Alegría, Efecto Cocuyo, Unión Radio, El Estímulo, El Pitazo and El Diario", though La Patilla is missing (funny enough, La Patilla is placed all the way at the bottom of the article as a "news website"). So the argument that La Patilla is a "key" pillar of Venezuelan media is lacking here. 2250:(summoned by bot). Based on the helpful discussion here, there seems to be ample reason to be wary of using La Patilla as a source. In most cases for which it is an adequate source there is likely to be a better one. (To clarify the issues and stakes here, it might be helpful to have some examples of situations where La Patilla 1916:

Most of the links listed don't use said outlets as the main source and are quite misleading. Reading each of the titles will also give an idea on how non-controversial these articles are. Let's break down the sources by categories. For simplicity and convenience, I'll use "B" for Breitbart, "E" Epoch

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BBC describes La Patilla, comparatively, as "rabidly anti-government". This information, in addition to La Patilla republishing content from questionable entities, such as Breitbart and obscure websites, shows that the website solely exists for political reasons and its main purpose is not to provide

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La Patilla's potential bias has been acknowledged in its entry, but this discussion is regarding reliability. I don't see in any way how the fact that said protests took places, or that amount or places for that matter, as is quotes Venezuelan Observatory of Social Conflict, arguably the best source

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This RfC is a mess, that has to be said upfront. These reliability RfCs operate largely on users who have experience with a source giving their opinion, and an overall opinion being decided from the comments. A lot of the excessive links both above and below is fairly unnecessary and out of scope; I

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All in all, this list summarizes non-controversial world events that are covered by reliable sources, are picked up likewise by questionable sources, and includes the latter versions published by La Patilla. Despite this, it is only but a small sample of the thousands of articles that La Patilla has

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La Patilla is one of the main digital news outlet in Venezuela. In 2017 it was the seventh most visited website in the country, and some years before, in 2015 it held the fifth position, only behind YouTube, Amazon, Google and Facebook, which can be interpreted as a sign of its trustworthiness as a

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BBC states the pressure and harassment was from the government; the non-RS recasts that to be majority shareholders and never mentions government activities during that time (pls review human rights organizations reports from that time period if you need a memory refresher) and take greater care to

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Not sure you could describe it as research since it only required typing in a web address and transcribing the result. It didn't even involve counting since the number 16 appeared beside LP's name. Similar to when we take something from any other web address. The text originally said LP was the 5th

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I was pinged here. I have no intention of weighing in on or reading the discussion above until/unless WMrapids learns to formulate correct RFCs (as mentioned multiple times elsewhere). I have noticed that WM seems to equate the editorial stance of a publication with its reliability. If that were

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You are giving the VENRS page more respect than it deserves. It was created at the height of the US regime change operation in Venezuela. It is similar to a talk page where a small group of editors have written down their opinions on some media sources related to Venezuela, often without attempting

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Anyway, I find that La Patilla was generally reliable before 2019. If their editorial practices have changed, there should be a delineation in time period. If there are issues with how they cover the United States, this can also be noted. A partisan political stance does not automatically make them

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It has not been snown that this is a characteristic for La Patilla. Even in the cases where Breitbart was cited, I showed the articles that were factually correct, even removing questionable statements from the original sources or retracting the article entirely. Continue the discussion until it is

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I could have sworn that I left this some weeks back, but anyways: unlike an article, where the published content can be gradually reworded between participants, the outcome of an RfC is made up by the arguments provided by a majority of the community. Suggesting a description for the source before

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B1, B9, B10, R1, R2, R3, R4, R5, R6, R8, R10, R11, R14, R18, R20, R23, E6, E9, E12, E14, E18, E19, P6, P7, P8 are statements by foreign authorities or entities. These include declarations covered in dozens of other international outlets and can easily be contrasted, and when this is not the case,

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as an example of this: several reliable sources have been vilified in the past for mistakes, retracted stories or comments made by journalists. With a twelve years history, is only natural that these flaws will be found. However, the "generally" classification in "generally reliable" exists for a

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These all look like pretty critical statements that would never be published by Breitbart, but more importantly: accurate and reliable descriptions of the website and associates. This is quite different from a website that would often replicate the website's conspiracy theories and fabrications.

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That would make a lot of sense to me. But FWIW I don't really have an objection to option 3 either. I went with the more cautious choice mostly just out of concern that there might be some valuable use of this source that hasn't come to light given the limited participation in this particular

2929:'s list of sources, any other editor can participate when they wish, and its list is complemented by the main discussions in the reliable sources noticeboard, as if often quotes the perennial sources' list. Plenty of the rationale for the listing is also explained in the essay's talk page ( 2653:

suppose it provides background (though partisan...) for users who are unfamiliar with the source, but they shouldn't really be !voting - a big issue with sources in this area, I hope you'll appreciate. Basically, if you could improve your RfC behaviour, that would do everyone good.

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as the publisher of The Epoch Times' documentary, one of the main newspapers in Argentina. Just because Infobae has published this documentary (and again, while agreeing on The Epoch Times' unreliability) doesn't mean that we will dismiss its reliability entirely and as

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Last August, Bolton told the far-right portal Breitbart that Venezuela was a threat to the United States and urged Washington not to be "timid" about the "dictatorship" of Nicolás Maduro, calling for more support for the opposition seeking to "restore" a representative

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The Committee to Protect Journalists today condemned a decision by the Venezuelan Supreme Court, which according to news reports ordered the independent news site La Patilla to pay US$ 5 million damages to a former vice-president as part of a civil defamation

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That's nice. What I see here is a) the usual people opining, and b) no one else. I suggest confining such RFCs to the proper place; that will also help you avoid pinging people to discussions in less optimal places (eg, people like me, who dislike pings).

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Trump's statement marks an abrupt break with Bannon, who was his last campaign manager and became his chief strategist from January 2017 until August, when he was fired without further explanation and returned to the ultra-conservative publication Breitbart

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On the opposite side, Trump appointed as his main strategist and advisor Steve Bannon, who led his campaign and owns the Breitbart News portal, a sounding board for the most right-wing sectors of the Republican Party and a fierce critic of that party's

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B5, B11, R10, R13, R14, R15, R17, R19, R21, R22, R24, R25, E15, E16, P2, O1, O3 are updates about world and local news. They cite both international and local outlets that are not among the deprecated sources listed. Notably, many of them are trivia:

3336:, yet continued to republish RT articles. So the argument that "La Patilla criticizes such sources so it doesn't have the same voice" doesn't hold water when they continue to republish unreliable sources. Recognizing the clear bias of La Patilla, 1892:

As you can see, the republishing of information from unreliable sources has been present in La Patilla's "reporting" nearly since its inception. This includes Russian propaganda, anti-China propaganda, controversial COVID-19 stories (pushing the

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A quick browse through the discussion that deprecated Breitbart reminds us of the reasons for the decision: fake news about George Soros, the US Democratic Party, Planned Parenthood, climate change denial, transphobia, and so on, to name a few

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The narrative seemed to fit Venezuela’s authoritarian rule (...) Venezuela’s opposition held up the images of the burning aid, reproduced on dozens of news sites and television screens throughout Latin America, as evidence of Mr. Maduro’s

1897:) and anti-immigrant articles from far-right publications. La Patilla could use any other sites for much of this news, but they lazily (or intentionally) use poor sources. This just further proves that La Patilla, is unreliable at best.-- 920:. All of these three cases are understandable knowing that La Patilla functions mostly as a news aggregator. Likewise, the fact that Breitbart's unreliability is not as known is the Spanish speaking sphere also has to be considered. 1942:". Not really the kind stuff you'd be worried to be material for conspiracy theories or fabrications. E15, O1, O3 and P2 look more like analysis articles, and in the case of the first one its original source is not the Epoch Times. 1814: 2964:

for the topic. Likewise, La Patilla is just quoting pollster Meganálisis. It's also equally important to address the fallacy that media that criticizes the government is pro-opposition. That's what a free press does. Only because

1376:. I really doubt that the United Nations, the Committee to Protect Journalists or the Human Rights Foundation were thinking about Fox News when describing La Patilla as "independent", much less Breitbart or Infowars. States that 886:

about demotions and expulsions in the military, both of which are commonplace in Venezuela and not really in dispute. Interestingly, in the case of the first article one of the most salacious statements by Breitbart is removed:

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These new nominations were celebrated by Republicans, but alarmed Democrats, who are still digesting Sunday's appointment of far-right Steve Bannon - head of the far-right portal Breitbart - as Trump's chief strategist and

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Someone at La Patilla has to be looking at the metrics and saying "Yeah, these Epoch Times pieces are bringing in some readers". What other justification is there? This is a clearly very biased site that has poor editorial

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Regarding The New York Times investigation, it should be noted that, at the time, many outlets also originally published the aid as being set on fire by Maduro sources. This is reflect in the own's article introduction:

2930: 820: 2804:, it said “Open a new section at the bottom of the talk page of the article or project page that you are interested in”, so that’s why it was placed here, so apologies. Should I close this RfC and open a separate one? 2101:). None of this is near to be seen among La Patilla's news. Instead, the articles listed include how Friends cast would reencounter or how Alec Baldwin deleted his Twitter account as examples of the concerning content. 1974:

After all of this digging, if this is the closest one can get to showing La Patilla's unreliability, it really shows that the problematic content only happens with a minority of cases, different from the definition of

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Looking at the dates of two articles you cited (2015 and 2016), their statements were prior to the use of Breitbart (among other questionable sources) and before La Patilla's head worked directly for Guaidó. Also, the

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source. Founded in 2010, it would be the pioneer of the online outlets that would come in the future, such as Efecto Cocuyo, El Pitazo, El Estímulo, and so on. The classification was put in place first for a reason.

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Bannon's appointment as President Donald Trump's chief strategist had sparked a spectacular controversy over his relationship with the far-right website Breitbart and accusations of advocating ideas close to white

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The use in said articles do not reflect the reliability of thousands of articles that the outlets has published ever since. I have already provided a rationale regarding the situation. It looks currently more as a

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That RFC was at the Reliable Sources noticeboard, which by design generates broader and hopefully more neutral feedback, along with more participation from editors well versed in how reliability is determined.

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It should be noted that B5 and B11, besides citing sources different from Breitbart, have ass tthe only text match for Breitbart in the article as the source of the images. I can go on to make a comparison with

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of articles such as "Venezuela", "Nicolás Maduro", "Crisis in Venezuela" and "Juan Guaidó". During the same time, several outlets were subject to scrutiny and their RfCs evaluated their reliability, including

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Leading is the top-ranking private news website La Patilla ... ... media critics of the government who had been forced to leave their previous journalist jobs because of government pressure and harassment.

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I'll be honest: this seems like a huge mess that I don't feel like getting into. I won't comment here, or further down the track in later discussions unless I am asked a question that I am needed to answer.

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page to say "Runrunes' main visitors are from Venezuela, the United States and Spain". Alexa may perhaps be considered a primary source which means that we need to be careful not to misinterpret its data.

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most visited site in 2015 and I updated the figure a while ago. Alexa doesn't operate any more so that is the last available reading. Alexa is used quite a lot on Knowledge (XXG). E.g. it is used on the

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sources. They would create their own stories and attribute properly (we do a better job with that ourselves). So, again, La Patilla is being lazy or republishing articles that follow their partisanship.

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As said above, La Patilla may be the "main digital news outlet in Venezuela", but that does not make it accurate. After doing research on the media in Venezuela, I discovered a great publication by the

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Alberto Federico Ravell's career, the outlet's director, should be remembered: he served as director of Globovisión, one of the main television channels in the country at the moment, for over 15 years

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published, and listing only mentions highlights that the reliability of La Patilla is not really being put into question, compared to the discussions where the mentioned references were deprecated.

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E11, P3, P5 and P9 are interviews. From what I understand, WP:ABOUTSELF applies, but they're primary sources and can be evaluated on their own merits, including their use with attribution if needed.

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There is consensus La Patilla is generally unreliable for the reporting of politics and science. Sources say the site has a clear pro-Venezuelan opposition bias and its leadership was allied with

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Seems like a reasonable use of a source that has been cited hundreds of thousands of times on Knowledge (XXG). It has been used as a source on this page since the article was created in 2014.

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By 2018, according to Alexa, visitors were primarily college educated or in graduate school, with homes and work places becoming the main browsing locations while visits from schools declined.

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Actually, the Google search shows La Patilla using Breitbart close to 50 times... I can provide the links if you'd like, since you are dramatically asking for 23 pages of discussion above.

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Bannon, 63, former head of the ultra-conservative website Breitbart News, has been branded a white supremacist and his presence in the White House generated controversy from the beginning.

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This is the documentary censored on social networks that denounced that the coronavirus had leaked from a laboratory in Wuhan (Republished video about lab leak theory from The Epoch Times)

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The New York magnate also relied on many conservative information sites, especially Breitbart News, a highly editorialized platform that became a reference for the Republican electorate.

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Media pluralism is important, yes, but it does not mean that we should find one side (opposition media) reliable while labeling the other side (the government) unreliable in a way that

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For a source to be deemed generally unreliable, it must be shown that this is the case with most of its content, which is not the case, as it happens with other sources. For instance,

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applies. This is particularly the case with Russia Today, which offers the declarations and positions by Russia, with the benefit of having an independent publisher as the middleman.

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outlet, disseminate the Epoch Times article "Thanksgiving was the triumph of capitalism over collectivism" that states that for the Pilgrims, "Their objective was the communism"

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its owner and editor is also the head of the political communication center of the government of Juan Guaidó, so that the news coverage also tends to have a clear political bias

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This is original research from a primary source; what Alexa shows or does not in a country with censorship is irrelevant, and secondary-sourced comment should be used instead.

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Of course, but repackaging material from deprecated and blacklisted outlets does. Their extreme bias does also open questions about reliability. For instance, the entry for

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The study authors also removed partisan and hyper-partisan domains, such as Breitbart News, to focus only on sites that intentionally or systematically produced fake news.

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The far-right U.S. website Breitbart released an internal Google video in September, where many of its managers and employees bitterly regret Trump's election in 2016.

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fallacy right there. The difference between the media situation in the United States and Venezuela is that the government has nearly complete control of the narrative

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avoid introducing POV via marginal sources when there are scores of high quality sources that cover freedom of press issues in Venezuela, and from that time period.

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Republican Mitch McConnell warns of the return to confinement in the United States if people do not get vaccinated against Covid-19 (By: The Epoch Times - July 2021)

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A quick search easily proves my point. The figures that I gave are from its former Alexa's ranking, currently unavailable but quoted by other references. Both the

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of La Patilla as a source in their articles during the site's 12-year existence. And when used as a source, its partisanship is usually attributed. Funny enough,

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If La Patilla does not know that Breitbart is unreliable, why should we think it's reliable? Few Spanish-language outlets are republishing Breitbart articles...

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More than a hundred Venezuelan personalities thank the United States and other countries that recognize Guaidó (manifesto) (By: The PanAm Post - February 2019)

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Regarding The New York Times investigation ... "images of the burning aid, reproduced on dozens of news sites and television screens throughout Latin America"

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We are deeply disturbed by the recent reports of attacks against journalists and independent media groups, escalating the pressure over the Venezuelan media

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Scientists assure that the soul can leave the body and see what happens around it (Video) (By: RT News, citing The Epoch Times, a 2 for 1! - December 2014)

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Why would they use such controversial sources for "world and local news" if they had many other reputable outlets to pick from? Again, this is laziness.

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outlets, but there are plenty of prominent outlets that have been determined by consensus as being unreliable or needing additional considerations (see

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Pence: Honduran President informed me that the migrant caravan is financed by Venezuela to "challenge our sovereignty" (By: Breitbart - October 2018)

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B2, B6, B8, P4, O2, O3 are updates about the crisis in Venezuela. Once again, they usually cite international reliable outlets, such as EFE and AFP.

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after the link to keep me from modifying it, if I keep adding bad data, but formatting bugs should be reported instead. Alternatively, you can add

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Scandal in the United States: Former "Democratic" candidate was captured trying to have sex with a minor (VIDEO) (By: The Gateway Pundit - 2020)

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Some Afghans have been allowed to enter the United States without a visa, says a Security Department official (By The Epoch Times - August 2021)

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Report: Venezuela’s worst and darkest head North for destinations like Martha’s Vineyard (By: World Tribune, citing Breitbart - September 2022)

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Of course, but they continue to make the same mistakes, like a Venezuelan outlet citing Breitbart for "general facts" about their own country.

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acts as a propaganda outfit against the Venezuelan government and its extreme bias means we can't rely on it to provide accurate reporting.

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Venezuela’s Economic Needs May Push Opposition To Support Maduro’s Debt Restructuring Plans (By: International Business Times - April 2023)

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Texas Governor declares disaster on the southern border with Mexico in response to the humanitarian crisis (By: The Epoch Times - June 2021)

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The governor of South Dakota defends the "unconventional" decision to keep the state open (By: New York Post, citing Breitbart - April 2020)

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The president of Warner Bros leaves office due to a relationship with a young actress (Using images provided by Breitbart - March 2019)

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Unfortunately, a user downplayed the usage of Breitbart and other questionable material by La Patilla, so some examples were provided.

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José I. Hernández: "By January 10, a new president must be appointed in Venezuela" (interview) (By: The PanAm Post - December 2018)

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That's how realistic this news presenter created by artificial intelligence in South Korea is (VIDEO) (By: RT News - November 2020)

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Speaking of Breitbart, the examples provided are articles about Venezuela, and in some cases general facts that are not disputed:

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They warn that Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania will not publish their election results tonight (By: RT News - November 2020)

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Would you look at that, you're right. My results are closer to 80, but the thing is that the vast majority seems to be coverage

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Mark Hendrickson: Marxism in the United States, the culmination of a decades-long movement - (By: The Epoch Times - August 2021)

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applies, but they're primary sources and can be evaluated on their own merits, including their use with attribution if needed.

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So it seems you would support "Option 2: Additional considerations"? If you do support an option, please provide that above.

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during the failed US regime change operation to install Guaidó as President. Seventeen La Patilla articles are cited on the

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Iran's revenge on the United States after Soleimani's death could come through Venezuela (By: The PanAm Post - January 2020)

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When could the world be free of coronavirus? What some experts say (By: FayerWayer?, citing The Epoch Times - February 2021)

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Russia published a video of the British destroyer who violated the Russian border in the Black Sea (By: RT News - June 2021)

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This US airline will fire 593 workers who refused to get vaccinated against Covid-19 (By: The Epoch Times - September 2021)

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At least 21 million mobile phone accounts disappeared in China in three months of the pandemic (By: Breitbart - March 2020)

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are also independent media organizations. So, can you explain to me how popularity and independence relate to reliability?

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El Pitazo or Efecto Cocuyo, which have much less reach than La Patilla, but have a much more rigorous treatment of the news

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Likewise, the fact that Breitbart's unreliability is not as known is the Spanish speaking sphere also has to be considered.

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Russia says that a new meeting between Putin and Biden in the rest of the year is "quite real" (By: RT News- October 2021)

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Dignity! PSUV threatened to starve those who did not vote and still abstained 80% (Survey) (By: Breitbart - December 2020)

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In VIDEO: Trump criticized the release of the narco-nephews and Biden's policies with Maduro (By: The Epoch Times - 2022)

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Ching Cheong: The first communist-style elections are about to be held in Hong Kong (By: The Epoch Times - December 2021)

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The longest-lived in the world: Woman from India became a mother for the first time at the age of 70 (By: RT news - 2021)

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Joshua Philipp: Orwell explains how socialists manipulate language to change history (By: The Epoch Times - August 2020)

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and discuss the use of media with free licenses, but it should be very clear that is totally unrelated to the content.

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is sending criminals to the United States. There has been a similar narrative by far-right groups in Chile and Peru.

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They affirm that American companies are empowering the Chinese Communist Party (By: The Epoch Times - January 2022)

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Will Geopolitical Pressure Push Biden To Lift Sanctions On Venezuela? (By International Business Times - May 2023)

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Venezuelan teenagers escape socialism by selling their body, hair and breast milk (By: Zero Hedge - December 2018)

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applies; we can't use low quality sources to refute higher quality ones, so I am next correcting that problem.

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why do we need a Venezuelan source that cites the US-based Breitbart to publish "general facts" about Venezuela?

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Fear of a more massive exodus stops the tightening of sanctions against Maduro (By: The PanAm Post - March 2018)

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Actor of 'Friends' sets date and place for the filming of the special reunion of the series (By: RT News - 2021)

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Two children mistakenly receive Covid-19 vaccines instead of flu vaccines in the US (By: RT News - October 2021)

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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the

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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the

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Putin announces the creation of a new control center for nuclear forces in Russia (By: RT News - November 2020)

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The test launch of the American Minuteman III intercontinental ballistic missile fails (By: RT News - May 2021)

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Donald Trump gains ground against Joe Biden in a new national poll (By Inquisitr, citing Breitbart - July 2020)

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Putin boasts of a military muscle in the midst of the conflict between Russia and Ukraine (By: RT News - 2022)

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La Patilla republished a Deutsche Welle article warning about Latin American outlets republishing RT articles

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Wang Youqun: Why did I give up my membership in the Chinese Communist Party? (By: The Epoch Times - May 2021)

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A huge U.S. hydroelectric plant closes due to the drought (Using images provided by Breitbart - August 2021)

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Maduro's regime empties prisons and sends violent criminals to the US border (By Breitbart - September 2022)

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Regarding La Patilla, it appears to be a biased right-wing source which ran some flattering articles about

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Trump seals his "biggest and most complex agreement," according to oil expert (By: The Epoch Times - 2020)

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poorly sourced information! If La Patilla is reposting poorly sourced information, then it is unreliable.

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stated "Editors also note the highly opinionated nature of the site as evidence against its reliability".

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to cite pollsters. Heck, if they had an editorial backbone present, they could even report it themselves.

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Governor of Florida criticized Joe Biden for authorizing flights to Cuba (By: The Epoch Times - July 202)

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Russia expects to register the world's first vaccine against Covid-19 within 10 days (By: RT News - 2020)

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North Korea expresses its firm support and solidarity with the Maduro regime (By: Breitbart - March 2018)

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La Patilla is a valuable source for content about Venezuela that in the current landscape is badly needed

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Diego Arria: Neither China nor Russia will intervene for Venezuela (By: The PanAm Post - September 2018)

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Lavrov's plugs were blown up at the UN: "Zelenski is our son of a bitch." (By: RT News - September 2022)

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A German scientist proposes a new version of the origin of the coronavirus (By RT News - November 2020)

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why would they need to republish Breitbart articles about discussing "general facts" about Venezuela?!?

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to keep me off the page altogether, but should be used as a last resort. I made the following changes:

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Venezuela. That is not the case here on Knowledge (XXG). Reading through the catalog of international

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The accident of China's most modern military helicopter caused 11 deaths (By: The Epoch Times - 2019)

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John Mac Ghlionn: The influential Westerners who help the Chinese regime (By: The Epoch Times - 2021)

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Joe Biden on his life in the White House: "It looks like a golden cage" (By: RT News - February 2021)

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an Epoch Times opinion article titled "Thanksgiving was the triumph of capitalism over collectivism"

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which includes content for sources desginated unreliable and deprecated by Knowledge (XXG) consensus

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The longest-lived in the world: Woman from India became a mother for the first time at the age of 70

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Putin warns the West that he will "regret" any provocation against Russia (By: RT News - April 2021)

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What did I do incorrectly regarding the creation of the RfC? It was created in a similar manner to

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and other questionable content may be republished by the site specifically when it fits their bias

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Breitbart news website, where Milo Yiannopoulos worked until he resigned over pedophilic comments.

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And how many times was it used during all that time, again? Three, four times at most? Alright. --

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Venezuela liquidates its gold reserves to pay off external financial debt (By: Zero Hedge - 2016)

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US Marines will expel those who reject the Covid-19 vaccine (By: The Epoch Times - October 2021)

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La Patilla may be reliable for news coverage on topics other than politics and science, though

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Faith and freedom: How a Shen Yun dancer escaped from China (By: The Epoch Times - July 2021)

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Russia plans to test a prototype of the "digital ruble" in 2022 (By: RT News - November 2021)

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This situation is different in much lesser-known online media, or with less traffic, such as

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sources, they also directly cite Venezuelan NGOs and people on the ground. So then, explain

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President of the TSJ in exile: It's time for the brave (By: The PanAm Post - September 2018)

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Pompeo accuses Biden of sacrificing US leadership in the world (By: RT News - October 2021)

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Venezuela occupies the last place in the 2015 Rule of Law Index (By: Breitbart - June 2015)

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https://web.archive.org/web/20150617064636/http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/www.lapatilla.com

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La Patilla reproduced an article condemning the republishing of RT News in Latin America

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VIDEO: Fire in Syria caused by an attack on a gas pipeline (By: RT News - February 2021)

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A US couple mistakenly receives $ 50 billion in their bank account (By: RT News - 2021)

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publish detailed information that a protester started the fire with a molotov cocktail.

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Well you asked for it. Here is a list of La Patilla articles publishing material from

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If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with

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The new owner of PanAm Post speaks (+ Communiqué) (By: The PanAm Post - August 2020)

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I should also point out to the mentions of La Patilla as an independent news outlet:

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With you being a member of WikiProject Venezuela, thank you for you quick response.

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La Patilla wants to share the opinion of Epoch Times columnists with its audience

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This just shows La Patilla's hyper-partisanship and lack of experience. In fact,

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Gloomy Christmas in Venezuela, families go hungry (By: Breitbart - December 2018)

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In 2019, Alexa ranked La Patilla as the 16th most popular website in Venezuela.

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This is just an example of a proposed option and the wording can be modified.--

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Two people die in a knife attack in a church in California (By: RT News - 2020)

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People reduced to eating household pets to survive are generally quite cynical.

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News outlets are prone to be just as fallible as humans. We can take Trump's

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Facebook's shares rose after announcing its name change (By: RT News - 2021)

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What happens when a media tries to tell only good news? (By: RT News - 2014)

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Many times La Patilla accompanies the complaint with a clear political bias.

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With a twelve years history, is only natural that these flaws will be found.

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Knowledge (XXG) talk:WikiProject Venezuela/Reliable and unreliable sources

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Let me think about that and wait for more editors to provide their input.

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Maybe a good compromise between Option 2 and Option 3 would be similar to

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If they were to be a "middleman" they wouldn't broadly repost articles by

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Canada puts the wrong symbol on its banknotes (By: RT News - January 2013)

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Yes, La Patilla republished a little-known "World Tribune" outlet that is

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RfC: Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Venezuela/Reliable and unreliable sources

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You are clearly minimizing the editorial laziness of La Patilla. You say

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have referred to La Patilla as the most visited news portal in Venezuela.

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has provided some important help. In a recent article from April 2023,

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This is concerning, so this is why an RfC has been placed. Thank you.--

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What are the statements from each source that contradict each other?

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has provided extensive documentation of its many editorial failings.

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The very concept of reliability for Knowledge (XXG) is independence:

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Ok, but this has nothing to do with reliability. This shows possible

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under pressure from a majority of partners of the television network

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that shows how Pilgrims turned away from "communism"? It is because

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Why is La Patilla disseminating opinion pieces from the Epoch Times

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A US couple mistakenly receives $ 50 billion in their bank account

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and the discussions take place in a similar way that a RfC would

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Map of the world's financial weaknesses (By: Zero Hedge - 2019)

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While I'm here, why is this original research in the article?

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through sensational journalism or narrative-building at worse.

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from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially

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the best available source and is claimed to be reliable.) --

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opinion pieces unless it was targeted towards their audience?

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Why is La Patilla parroting Epoch Times opinion articles?!?!?

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It's the reason why the report was so revealing at the time.

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When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the

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Why does La Patilla need to have a close relationship with

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would continue to say the fire was started by Maduro forces

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Similar problem here; this doesn't belong in the article:

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opinion pieces about the "CCP virus" from the Epoch Times?

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that Maduro troops set fire to aid with tear gas, though

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don't seem to need La Patilla; quick Google searches of

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checks the box for "systematic and persistent issues".

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we shouldn't even have a sample like this to begin with

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outlets in Venezuela does not mean that it is accurate.

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I have just added archive links to 2 external links on

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BBC News describes La Patilla as a "satirical website"

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So Knowledge (XXG) doesn't 568:http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/www.lapatilla.com 406:http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/www.lapatilla.com 963:Ok. We understand that this may be one of the 576:This message was posted before February 2018. 558:http://www.alexa.com/topsites/countries%3B0/VE 546:http://www.alexa.com/topsites/countries%3B0/VE 440:This message was posted before February 2018. 1940:Canada puts the wrong symbol on its banknotes 914:The third article was retracted by La Patilla 8: 1099:The "main digital news outlet in Venezuela" 1030:the fourth one actually quotes World Tribune 412:http://www.alexa.com/topsites/countries;0/VE 3521: 2767:, not here. This RfC is doomed to run into 882:talks about the currency's devaluation and 188: 2313: 1522:It seems that La Patilla is parroting the 1324:the most-watched cable network in the U.S. 991:And Globovision was pretty anti-government 216: 846:While discussing his latest appointment, 743:La Patilla would push the false narrative 518:I have just modified 5 external links on 1445:Breitbart, Epoch Times and RT connection 3407:how we determined reliability, neither 3067:Using Breitbart over a period of years 2347: 2341: 2047:"B7 and B13 are just citing pollsters." 1413:Thor Halvorssen (human rights activist) 781:can show that La Patilla has done this 218: 3771: 3767: 3525: 3484:A link was provided on the noticeboard 3381: 3377: 3374:dozens of Epoch Times opinion articles 3327: 3266: 3254: 3241: 3228: 3216: 3204: 3191: 3178: 3165: 3153: 3023: 3019: 3015: 3011: 2719: 2699: 2689: 2673: 2356:(news excluding politics and science) 2161: 2147: 2063: 2046: 2032: 2020: 2010: 1996: 1380: 1366:Articles should be based on reliable, 1365: 1276: 1252: 1191: 1130: 1118: 1063: 1053: 1043: 1029: 1012: 998: 984: 958: 888: 869: 778: 729:as "generally reliable" by members of 1958:B7 and B13 are just citing pollsters. 975:). 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