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Thanks so much for your comment. I am unclear on what your gripes are with the wording in the article. It is a FACT Chloe
Sevigny was nominated for an Oscar for playing Lana, which is a huge reason there is public interest in her story. It is FACT Brandon Teena binded his breasts, and Lana was not a
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actually, yes - the sources do make these things extremely clear. I'm glad you think your opinion on the events should be included in the article, and instead of having a discussion about it, and since you didn't get your way you put it up for deletion saying there is not interest, when you clearly
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Brandon Teena told many people various stories that he was planning or was transitioning, but there is NOT a record that he ever did this. I suggest you read the book,
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oh my, you missed have missed the 10 articles I had cited at the bottom of this page. Pity you didn't take time to read through them but instead nominated it for deletion.
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