Talk:Libertarianism (disambiguation)

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saying the same thing), whether the page is likely to be the one somebody is looking for if they look for "libertarianism." So "Libertarianism (metaphysics)" is good, because this is a separate concept which is also referred to by the term "libertarianism"; "Anarchism" is also good because "libertarianism" has sometimes been used as a synonym for anarchism. But articles on specific varieties of libertarianism are less good candidates for the disambiguation page - presumably, if somebody is specifically looking for a variant of libertarianism, they will either use a more specific term, or be able to get to this more specific variant via the general "libertarianism" page. "Civil libertarianism" is also not a great candidate for inclusion here, at least IMO, people who are looking for information on civil liberties are unlikely to do so by searching for "libertarianism"; anyone looking for that topic will include the "civil" part already, I think (though I could be wrong about this).

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gray area, as it can be seen as a variety of libertarian political theory, but one much more distinct historically and conceptually than left-, right- and geolibertarianism. I'm not sure that civil libertarianism should be on the page, either; I don't think anyone ever uses the word "libertarian" on its own to mean support for civil liberties specifically (rather than as part of a broader political philsophy, viz, libertarianism), do they? But I tend to agree with Carolmooredc that Libertarian party should be here - party names are often used without the word "party," as in "Mr So-and-so, the Libertarian candidate," so it seems reasonable that someone looking for "libertarian" on its own might be interested in the political party (and I note that

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on various people. I've usually just asserted it should be minimally inclusive or very inclusive, having a problem with POV inclusion/exclusion. I'm pretty tired of the cycle and have come to believe that this page is not particularly necessary. There should just be the libertarianism article with a note directing people to Libertarianism (metaphysics) on top. And then we can just mention every thing that WP:RS says calls itself libertarianism in the article, in proportion to its relevance. (With a few things not relevant to existing sections only listed under "See also.") So what we need is a deletion proposal on the disambiguation page, once this one is sufficiently buried.

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specific pro-property/free-market/minimal-state tradition - no connection with anarchism is intended. The reason for including anarchism on this disambiguation page is not that some libertarians happen to be anarchists, which is what you wording seems to imply; if that were the case, it would make sense to include classical liberalism and communism here too, because some (right) libertarians are classical liberals and some (left) libertarians are communists. What justifies inclusion on a disambiguation page is not just overlap - rather, in the usage of someone like Woodcock, "libertarian" and "anarchist" are synonyms.

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There's no political party or comprehensive political philosophy associated with civil libertarianism. It has a single, undisputed meaning. It even contains the word "libertarianism," so the redirect page should have it. Anarchism's connection to libertarianism is less clear to me, mostly because I don't understand it as well. They all seem to vary only in how they think society would be organized in the absence of a state, and somehow, without coercion, they prevent the growth of another state.

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apologies, i did not mean to upset you. after the 10 post you have made in this section, all 10ish are telling me who to be a better editor, thank you. but use my talk page please. unless you have a source supporting your claim the 2 are different, please excuse yourself here, and use the rfcuser,

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talk page. Obviously the flawed proposal to turn the libertarianism article into a disambiguation page is opposed and won't happen. However, there is merit in getting rid of the Libertarianism (disambiguation) page entirely It seems to go through cycles of growing and diminishing in size, depending

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Frankly, I don't understand your point. In today's usage many left anarchists call themselves libertarians (like Woodcock) and many right/pro-property/free market libertarians call themselves anarchists (many refs could be supplied). And there are left anarchists who do NOT want to be confused with

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In the English speaking world since the 1950s, libertarianism generally refers to an individualist and capitalist ideology that emphasizes individual rights, including the right to own property, and personal freedom, but may stop short of the anarchist position of a complete rejection of the state.

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To Born2cycle, yes I am absolutely sure that the term "libertarianism", along with "libertarian socialism" and "anarchism", has long been used to refer to anti-authoritarian socialism in Europe. This is very easy to verify, even through English language Google, awash as it is with the contemporary

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article could also, in principle, have the title "Libertarianism." If we can phrase this more clearly on the disambiguation page, we should do so; but I don't think Carolmooredc's suggestion is right, because it misses out the fact that anarchism and libertarianism are two separate things that can

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That's why there's a disambiguation page. Different people mean different things by "libertarianism." For some libertarianism = anarchism. For some, libertarianism = libertarian socialism. For some libertarianism = consequentialist libertarianism or classical liberalism. For some, libertarianism =

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Agree with Skomorokh that specific varieties of libertarian political theory (left-, right-, geo-) shouldn't be on the disambiguation page; these are specific examples of one general concept (libertarian political theory), not alternative meanings for a term. "Libertarian socialism" is a bit of a

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I was about to remove the line about libertarianism as a synonym for anarchism, on the grounds that we already say it in the section on libertarian socialism, but then it occoured to me that some might object that this doesn't account for anarcho-capitalism. Still, I wonder if libertarian is ever

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What I mean is, when someone like Woodcock calls themselves "libertarian," they mean they are an anarchist - no connection with pro-property/free-market/minimal-state libertarians is intended. Meanwhile, when someone like Nozick calls themselves a "libertarian," they mean that they are part of a

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Disambiguation in Knowledge (XXG) is the process of resolving conflicts in Knowledge (XXG) article titles that occur when a single term can be associated with more than one topic, making that term likely to be the natural title for more than one article. In other words, disambiguations are paths

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I'm not sure that the fact that articles have the term "libertarianism" in their title necessarily means they should be on the disambiguation page. The criterion, as I understand it, is whether "libertarianism" would be a plausible title for the page, or (which is more-or-less a different way of

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to me - I have no idea why you think that statement is relevant in this discussion. The second sentence is not even a sentence but a fragment; not a complete thought. Again, no idea what you mean. The last sentence makes sense and I don't disagree; thanks for you help in improving the list.

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Earlier today I expanded the list under "Libertarian" to include a number of libertarian organizations to complement the reference to libertarian political parties. The list is not complete, but it's a good start. If the list already exists, a link to it would be fine here. But this list was

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Also, why should civil libertarianism have its own article? Unlike, liberty, liberties, libertarian, and libertarianism; civil liberty, civil liberties, civil libertarian, and civil libertarianism don't have any extra meaning added to them. A civil libertarian advocates for civil liberties.

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I have tagged this article for being contested as inaccurate/bias, because of the inclusion of "anarchism" has an alternative title to libertarianism, and the inclusion of the assertion that the terms are used synonymously. I genuinely do not believe that this assertion remotely resembles a

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When reliable sources refer to the philosophy or concept of libertarian socialism they use the term "libertarian socialism" or "left-libertarianism"; they do not use (just) the term "libertarianism". It's a separate concept from the philosophy/concept referred to as just "libertarianism".

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The principle division in anarchism, also known as libertarianism or antiauthoritarianism, is between social anarchists, who believe in a nonstate form of socialism, and the individualist anarchists, who oppose socialism and favor capitalism or are opposed to any form of social organization

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I do think it's very likely, almost certain, that anyone looking for the concept commonly associated with "right-libertarianism" will type in just "libertarianism" in the search box. About the only time "right-libertarianism" is used to refer to libertarianism is in a context in which

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They aren't the same thing .... that's why the structure is better. Your suggestion is roughly like saying minarchism should be subsumed by the link to right-libertarianism or something weird like that. The suggestion doesn't really make much sense, given the subject matter.

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reverted with the odd comment of, "don't edit to make a point, whatever it is; categories exist for different subgroups". This editor's confusion is indicated by the "whatever it is" clause. I was not trying to make a point. I was trying to make the dab page more useful.

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Busky, Donald. Democratic Socialism: A Global Survey, Praeger/Greenwood (2000), p. 4 (Rothbard was calling his philosophy "libertartarianism" before the term started being associated with state libertarianism, and was simply using the term interchangeably with anarchism.)

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no such WP:uninformednonsense article exist, perhaps it should be your 1st attempt at authoring an article. a milestone every editor should attempt. btw, if you have the differences yourself, why are you asking others, instead enlighten us here, in the correct forum.

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Yes. Unless "American-style libertarianism" is defined significantly differently from what is implied by those two quotes (if so, I have no idea what that definition might be). Most notably, "libertarian socialism" is clearly excluded from these conceptions.

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is what libertarianism all about? Isn't it more likely they'd be looking for that? In fact, type in libertarian party to google and you get 679,000 hits; type in libertarian socialism and you get 195,000. So which are people more likely to be looking for??

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Libertarian socialism is considered to be left-libertarian.... (And actually geolibertarianism is considered left-libertarian as well.) There are reliable sources that describe them as an understanding of the philosophical ideology of Libertarianism.

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Fair enough. I am discussing now my change of reverting any such "merge" prior to performing the revert. I plan to revert it as uninformed nonsense, and unjustified destruction of non-contentious material. Anyone have comments on this proposed edit?

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Ouch. Way to assume I acted in bad faith! :P All I really did was search "libertarian" and started putting every article with libertarian(ism) in the title on this page. I thought that's what a disambiguation page was for. Again, I suggest

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Civil libertarianism denotes a more general advocacy of personal freedom, regardless of what other political views he or she may hold. The Political compass is notable for using the term libertarianism to refer strictly to support for personal

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minarchists, propertarians, etc. I've never heard it used that way; at least in European usage, libertarian as a synonym for anarchist always carries the connotation of socialist anarchist (of course, "anarchist" carries that connotation too).

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The long list that you have unnecessarily added to this page to make your point that there shouldn't be a page is not considered good wiki-etiquette. So I've reverted to the original three from here. What others might there legitimately

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I'm not sure where exactly we'd put this link to the list of parties in this scheme. Maybe just after the different meanings? Or in the bit on capitalist libertarianism, as all the parties listed are libertarian in that sense, I think.

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Maybe we could avoid this question, but also avoid the slightly odd apparent disjunction between libertarian socialists, anarcho-capitalists, and anarchists by restructuring the article to make the political meanings sub-points of the

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Why not just keep it as simplistic as possible? This article should be a disambiguation, but it was starting to look like an essay. "Libertarianism" is simply a synonym for anarchism. That's really all that anyone needs to know.

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If you make an edit to this page based on what appears to be ignorant speculation, with absolutely ZERO evidence that there are reliable sources to affirm your position, I very well will take you up on your suggestion above.

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how likely is it that that person will type in just "libertarianism" in the search box? I suggest it's bloody unlikely, and sufficiently unlikely to be handled more than adequately with a hatnote link at the top of the

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FYI, wikilinks are not considered "sourced text." And link to list of libertarian organizations obviously more comprehensive (though needs additions and re-checking). Just picking out a few would be considered POV.

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minarchism, etc. Need another source? "For a century anarchists have used the word 'libertarian' as a synonym for 'anarchist', both as a noun and an adjective." Ward, Colin. Anarchism: A Very Short Introduction.

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I agree. I've come around, and think that these three are fine. I agree that civil libertarianism shouldn't be here, because I've never heard of anyone using just the word libertarianism in that sense.

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minimal state or anarchist "pro-capitalist" libertarians and reject the word altogether. (And I'm sure I could find a few refs for that.) There is not one single definition as you seem to be assuming.

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As long as people want a disambigutation page, it should not pick or choose in a POV what goes in and out. (Especially leaving out Left Lib and Lib party, both of which highly relevant.) OH, yes, and

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Agree. Normally disambiguation pages are created when there are different subjects with the same name and no agreement that one topic should have priority. For example, lots of people are called

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well after researching both, i have found no differences, therefore, merge is justified. my purpose here was to discuss the change prior to editing, a practice several have suggested you adopt.

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included in it, even though refs show that Lib socialism gets many more hits. I think they both should have their own sections because of various differences, but heads up to anyone who cares.

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Given your comments above, it's not even clear you'd recognize it when you saw it, since your comments indicate that you think free markets and libertarian socialism are somehow incompatible.

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It's not that "anarchism" is an alternative title to libertarianism; it's more the other way around. The word "libertarian" sometimes (usually, in Britain an America at least) means what the

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is some kind of newfangled concept for you in this thread???? Baffling..... Anyways, I'm done here. Next move about the geolibertarianism issue is yours. I hope you edit wisely. Cheers.

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Yes, free markets and libertarian socialism are incompatible. If there is no private property for the means of production, then there can't be a market at all, much less a free one. --

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I can't produce a source of the non-existent. If I'm wrong, you should be able to easily find a source that refers to the concept of social libertarianism as just libertarianism. --

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that refers specifically to the concept more precisely known as "libertarian socialism" (or "left-libertarianism")? 10? 100? 1,000? How many pages? I can't find one at all. --

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This is exactly the type of tendentiousness that has me about to pull the trigger and start an RFC/USER. NOWHERE did I say I was "unable to support why." And, moreover, it is for

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This is a confusing proposal. I have come to believe that this page is not particularly necessary. There should just be the libertarianism article with a note directing people to

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page discusses, i.e., a small-to-no-state, broadly classical liberal, political philosophy; in this sense, although some libertarians are anarchists, many (probably most) aren't.

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refers to any of a number of views that emphasize the importance of freedom. In its most absolute form, this focus on freedom would make libertarianism a synonym for anarchism.

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and American-style libertarianism, as they are quite distinct in history and content and are the primary meanings of the term "libertarianism" in different parts of the world.

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on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to support the project, please visit the project page, where you can get more details on how you can help, and where you can join the

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i pulled the above material from the wp pages on each topic. the sources all looked legit, but if you say they are flawed, i will remove them from the 2 articles.

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OK, I get your point. However, I also think others would just put it back in again (this debate has happened repeatedly before) unless you can clearly show that

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It is obviously false to say that libertarianism = anarchism, since many people who describe themselves as "libertarians" are minarchists, not anarchists. --

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Before the 1950s, and in non English speaking countries to this day, libertarianism generally refers to specifically left-wing forms of anarchism, known as

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differentiation from libertarian socialism is desired, which is not the context in which someone is doing a Knowledge (XXG) search for libertarianism. --

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You seem to have a lot of sources on this topic. Why don't you provide some? I will gladly admit to knowing far less than you do about the use of the word

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refers to the so-called "American-style libertarianism" ("promote free-market economics and civil liberties"). And it's also not in Australia, for the

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I removed the links to the civil libertarianism and anarchy pages, as both are discussed in depth the libertarianism article. Since that leaves only

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a synonym for anarchism (or the fact that many anarchists call themselves libertarians today). I only said that "libertarianism" is no longer used

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did the article explain it to you, if so, would you tell me what it said the difference was? if not, would you support combining the two here?

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Spylab has shortened this page to a real disamb page, not an article. Would it be sensible to move some of the material in the longer version

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Anarcho-capitalism, which rejects the state, and minarchists, which advocates a minimal state, are both libertarian ideologies in this sense.

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WHERE ARE THE RELIABLE SOURCES THAT SUPPORT YOUR SUGGESTION THAT "GEOLIBERTARIANISM IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THING AS 'LEFT-LIBERTARIANISM'"

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Really? How many pages of google page results of a "libertarianism" search do you have to go through before you find even a single use of

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American meaning; search for "libertarianism" with the names of major lib. soc. thinkers like Proudhon, Bakunin, Malatesta. McKercher's

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who is a libertarian in Woodcock's sense is also an anarchist, and everyone who is an anarchist is, in Woodcock's sense, a libertarian.

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states the ALS "supports free-markets, individual liberty and the promotion of peaceful, voluntary interaction between people." --

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However, if that's how the disambiguation page works, then unqualified libertarianism article should be mostly about minarchism.

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by anarchists, and that this disambig page should give a short description of every group calling itself "libertarian". --

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forbids it. At the very least it is a "Related subject/term." In either case to change the language slightly I'd suggest:

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No-one is picking and choosing in a POV way which goes in and out; you're confusing disambiguation with navigation (i.e.

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To BigK HeX, I'm not contesting that these are considered or described as libertarian, but whether they are literally

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I think the problem is more inaccurate language. More accurate language (for all varieties of libertarians) would be:

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part of the world is "libertarian socialism" the primary topic for libertarianism? I know it's not the UK, as UK's

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I'm sorry, but your words and actions are simply incomprehensible to me. The first sentence seems to be a complete

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I have no problem with having very short descriptions as long as they're sourced. People were just making stuff up.

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which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —

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which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —

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Putting these three together - is a WP:OR/SYNTH attempt to define the terms here . It should go back to

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I'm sure that people use the word "libertarianism" to refer specifically to the things mentioned in the

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on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

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on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

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whose topics are known by the same (or very similar) term. That seems obviously to be the case here.

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That's for the article to explain. The point is there is an article and this should redirect to it.

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That's for the article to explain. The point is there is an article and this should redirect to it.

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I propose we move (or make a redirect) out of this page to "Libertarian". We should model it after

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I'm going to make this change unless someone tutors me on the stuff I refuse to educate myself on.

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It's not clear what is dubious about Geolibertarianism. Please explain so problem can be solved.

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So, you plan to make edits based on your admitted ignorance. I do not recommend that.

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should go back too. Maybe indents for varieties of political philosophies is way to go.

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ok, i will merge until we both have a better understanding of the difference between.

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Or, to put it in terms that matter in WP, if someone is looking for information about

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You seem to have an extraordinarily warped view of how editing Knowledge (XXG) works.

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And... those quote snippets prove that it's "American-style libertarianism"?

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leading to different articles which could, in principle, have the same title'

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Why would they be more likely to be looking for libertarian socialism than

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I put an edit warring tag on Darkstar's talk page. One of several he has.

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I needed reminding of that myself, so let's not just freely speculate :-)

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because it doesn't have its own article and is barely mentioned in the

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I'm not disagreeing with the need for separate articles, but in what

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Your confusion is noted. I hope the explanation I just posted at

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if the article is unable to explain, then they should be merged.

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also refers to the so-called American-style libertarianism since

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The disambiguation structure is better without your suggestion.

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would be since that might be what some people were looking for?

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or better yet my talk page, your critique is welcome there.

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to compensate those who are excluded from natural resources.

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what is the difference between a geo, and left-libertarian?

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and it is not obvious that any one should have priority.

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My objections to the edits are similar to CarolMooreDC's.

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which is some definitions is barely libertarianism at all.

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That's a pretty bald assertion. Got a source for that??

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to be trolling. I will put it so that there's no doubt:

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so if that was aimed at me, i didnt point to the lpusa.

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wp:idontlikeit, please reread and modify your comment

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YOU are the one who needs to show they are "the same."

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There would still be a need for separate articles on

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especially. Can anyone vouch that this is the case?

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