583:'It seems to me they're just humorous ways of saying "fuck all"' Well, that's where you are quite wrong. It's a humorous way of saying 'just a little bit'. So we say "it's a bee's dick too big" or "move it left a poofteenth". I don't think it's any less valid than "realtors throw", which might be common in the US but is unheard of here (Australia) - and as far as I can tell is only a humorous way of saying "further than you might be led to believe". So, my vote is that if "realtor's throw", stays then so do bee's dick and poofteenth. ;)
1745:. This link is a Fortran subroutine used by the Computation Nuclear Physics group at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory for the express purpose of defining natural constants and conversion factors for Monte Carlo simulation. As for the objection about orders of magnitude, until we are capable of igniting our own stars, experimental astrophysics will have to be somewhat more conservative in energy. (And don't you dare say 'experimental astrophysics' is a hoax, either.) --
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it to stay, I just think that the same rigorous arguments applied to
Sydharb and others could also be applied to other items on this page. I'm sure that some paleontologist somewhere thought that 'lawyers' would be a funny joke too but, according to this article, it is in serious use in that field - is there a challenge to verify that, or are we just accepting it because someone said it once or read it somewhere? Why can we not accept that Sydharb is in the same vein?
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point is that the pidgeons bandwidth depends on the distance it has to fly and the
Internet has approximately the same bandwidth irrespective of distance. Hence we can nearly always find a distance at which the Internet is faster and one where the pidgeon wins...no matter what numbers you pick as the size of a flash memory chip or the bandwidth of the Internet.
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This does not imply that the author coined the phrase himself, it may have been extant at the time. But how long does something have to have been in common usage before it's no longer considered a hoax? The main page of this article has a boxout, but there's no discussion on the subject here. It's
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Now try getting to 3000 miles. The poor pidgeon can't really fly more than ~1500 miles and their homing instincts fail when the distances are very great. So we're going need to switch pidgeons halfway - but still - it's gonna take about 100 hours - at least 4 days - to ship a
Gigabyte 3000 miles by
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I can find you plenty of examples of 'poofteenth' in use and yet it is no longer represented here ;) Show me a reference where it states that the football field is a unit of measurement. Otherwise, it is just a common means of comparing the sizes of things. Don't get me wrong, I'm more than happy for
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I decided to revert
Icairns's change combining of all the references in the article since they are not free standing references, but instead are specific sources for quotations within the article. Having them down at the bottom all together just makes it harder to associate them with what they are a
1938:" Really? I'm sure it's a book that most Westerners have heard of, and probably have a rough idea of its length. But I'd need to see a very reliable source to be convinced that "nearly every" household has one, even for loose interpretations of "nearly every." How about a qualifying remark in there?
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Jerk: you may consider it a neologism (even though it predates the SI system and the general usage of the prefix 'giga',) but as it is a working term used for half a century across several institutions, I think it can hardly be dismissed as irrelevant. In contrast with 'barn-megaparsecs' and 'hobos'
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According to the link (a little further down the code), 1 jerk=1 GJ. I do not think that life becomes so much easier when one simply replaces the term "gigajoule" by "jerk", so I'd like to see if there is any indication of an established use of this unit outside a rather narrow community. Otherwise,
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The bandwidth of a carrier pidgeon depends critically on the distance. A pidgeon flies at about 30mph over long distances - although a lot depends on wind speeds and directions. It could perhaps carry a 1Gbyte flash memory chip. Over 30 miles, that would be a bandwidth of 1Gbyte/hour which is 2.2
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I've just looked at the sources provided which were listed when I deleted it from the page. Unfortunately for your case, they don't prove that the units are being used. They just say "here is a suggestion for some new comedic units", quite strongly demonstrating the point that the units are actually
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I personally remember my Dad telling me this joke way back when I was a kid, but that's hardly a citation. After a bit of searching, I've tracked down a reference from 1985: it is defined in the glossary of a humorous book called "Science made stupid", by an author called Tom Weller, which won the
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Well, I guess if people said "When I access this web site that's 30 miles away, my connection's bandwidth is 0.1 FMHP's (flash-memory-homing-pidgeons)" - then one could count a homing pidgeon as a unit - but they don't - so it isn't. However, that's not why I deleted that line from the article. I
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It's not a significant unit - AFAIK it's mentioned just once in one episode of The
Simpsons...nobody uses it, that's hardly something to mention in Knowledge (XXG). This article is teetering on the edge of being a collection of jokes - if we don't clean it up and try to make it more encyclopedic -
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etc. etc. The first link has an explicit list of experimental astrophysicists and their publications. (First item from googling "Experimental
Astrophysics papers.") "Don't you dare" was meant as a jibe, considering a simple google of the phrase "Experimental Astrophysics" should indicate that I am
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Where are the 'references' for the others, such as
Realtors Throw, Football field, Barleycorns of Liquid Hot Magma etc.? I have certainly seen the term 'sydharb' quoted in articles here (Australia). If this article is to be a list of units of measurement that are actually defined in some technical
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Perhaps you should have just read the sources already listed. And just because it's
Australian doesn't mean it's automatically incorrect. Or perhaps, if we find an incorrect American unit, we could remove all of the American units? Also, if the Sydharb goes, then the Football Field measurement can
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This is not a hoax. Both 'jerk' and 'shakes' are terms that have been used by astrophysicists and weapons physicists within the original poster's hearing. Tons of high explosive is a conventional method for describing nuclear events, but is not as conducive to order-of-magnitude estimation as the
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Now, you may dispute the density of flash memory chip that the bird could carry - or argue that a racing pidgeon can fly at 60mph for short bursts - or you might argue about what bandwidth it is competing against when we talk about "the bandwidth of the
Internet" - but that's not the point. The
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Given the usual SI derived units, any unit with any non-decimal factor is at least a bit strange (including the minute and hour). A little less strange are irregulary decimal derived units like the bar, ångström and are. Furthermore, nobody would use kg·m²·s/s³ (rather kg·m²/s²), but some people
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I rewrote this to make it clear that attoparsec has a special status in nerd humor... and therefore the existence of this article should not be a precedent for creating individual stubby articles on yoctoparsecs, zeptoparsecs, exaparsecs, etc. etc. I didn't want to lose the content. If there's a
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Jerhill, by whom or at what institutions etc is experimental astrophysics being conducted? Are there experiments in that field that don't involve nuclear explosions? Can you give a list of people who consider themselves experimental astrophysicists and where they have published? I'm afraid your
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OK, I removed the reference because it obviously was not helpful in establishing the validity of this unit. I'd prefer it if you avoided making personal remarks along the lines of 'not very clever' because you do not know me. When we meet for a beer, then you can call me dumb, not before OK? ;)
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in jocular use by programmers--I just googled on it and The Jargon File and other sources aren't terribly convincing about this--it's worth preserving, though if there is a suitable article on nerd humor it could be moved there. I think I would argue that if it has an entry in FOLDOC and in the
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Most Wiki articles have their external links at the end of the article. Inserting them into the body will make this article look out of place. What's wrong with footnotes pointing at a later external link? You will also need to change the appearance of the See also section heading - since your
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It seems it would be useful to separate these three types of measurements, as they are distinct ideas. Could be done by reorganizing, of course. But it seems to me that three separate articles is warranted (with better names, hopefully). Unfortunately, the final category--actual unusual
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Back in the early revisions of this page, it meant "Technically this should not be on this page, because it is a real SI unit. However, it is a canonical example of a unit that is never used except to emphasize its deliberate oddness." A rewrite of that sentence is certainly in order.
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To be honest, I'm not too bothered about it. I added them and others have embellished them. I'm not going to get upset if someone removes them. You're probably right that they don't fit the original intention of the article - I think there are a few others in the same category.
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My grandmother always used "a mile a minute" to describe someone or something doing something fast. I.e., "he was speaking a mile a minute" to indicate a person was speaking fast. Technically, a mile a minute = 60mph. Is this common? If so, should this be included?
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them. The one week limit for verification seems reasonable to me. Do you think I should have left it for longer? I'd like to also point out that several other dubious units were added to the article as "Australian units", and this seemed to be part of the same family.
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Palapala, I've taken the liberty of editing your notes on km/woche to make them read better in
English. Incidentally, I used the phrase "a snail's pace" because it is an English idiom. Is your phrase "the speed of a snail" a translation of a German idiom?
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deleted it because it's demonstrably not true except over very short distances - and because it doesn't say the size of the flash memory or what is meant by 'the bandwidth of the Internet' (Which piece of it? All of it? My connection to it? What?).
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Unconventionally scaled common units: Some of these are attempting to get humor simply from obfuscation, such as in hertz per dioptre or attoparsec. Others are simultaneously trying to make other points, as in light-nanosecond, nanocentury, and
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The comparison of the bandwidth of a carrier pidgeon (strictly a 'homing pidgeon') holding a flash memory cart - versus the bandwidth of 'the Internet' (whatever that means) is not valid - so I removed it. You may be interested to know why.
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The unit of mass in the foot-pound-second (British engineering) system, equal to the mass that will require an acceleration of 1 ft/s when subjected to a force of 1 pound. It is therefore equal to 1 lb s ft, 32.1740 pound-mass or 14.5939 kg
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However, try it over 300 miles. The pidgeon now takes 10 hours to fly that far and it's bandwidth is now down to 220Kbits/s - still better than a 56kbit/s modem - but now a lot worse than a broadband connection to the Internet will manage.
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This issue seems to be settled, but I'll just add an independant corroboration. I have heard the unit "sydharb" used for at least 30 years, only ever in a serious context, and it appears in my 1981 edition of the Macquarie Dictionary.
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is up for an AfD and most likely will be removed from the site, I've removed the units from this article as well until and if someone can provide a verifiable source beyond "Well, my friends and I use the terms" or some such nonsense.
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I vote in favour of deleting such entries. If there's no precedent for someone talking about five (or any amount greater than one) of these at a time, it's just an expression, not actual (albeit obscure/humourous) unit of measurement.
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No vote. I just rewrote it, emphasizing its special status as a jocularity and therefore (hopefully) making it clear that it's not a precedent for individual article on yoctoparsecs, exaparsecs, etc. Assuming that it really
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Question: If the unit of measurement specific the distance that the pigeon is traveling would that be better? So for example, if it were always presumed to be through a 10 mile wormhole with no wind or something like that.
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from removing sections because they 'look bogus' and have no stated source, especially when those units have SEVERAL stated sources. I point you to your own opinions, DannyWilde, specifically WikiFiddler, definition 5.
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These 'units' of measurement have NO Google hits whatsoever except Knowledge (XXG) and answers.com, which mirrors the Squick article. With no verifiable source beyond the person who contributed, PLUS the fact that the
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I suspect this section to be a hoax. No verifiable source, and it seems highly unlikely that astrophysics should use units convenient for nuclear weapons - there ought to be too many orders of magnitude in between.
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I never heard of the "jerk" as a unit though - nuclear weapon yields are always given in units of tons (of TNT). Incidentally, this is one of several definitions of "ton" that could be added to this page, see
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Graham Barr himself was aware of the measurements, and his reaction seems more one of honor than of insult. However, yes, since it's not widespread, I can see that a removal is appropriate. No hard feelings.
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I would consider the term "jerk" simply to be a neologism in this context, and not worthy of a Knowledge (XXG) entry. The use as an abbreviation in program source code is not enough of an indication for me. --
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Do these really belong here? It seems to me they're just humorous ways of saying "fuck all", and aren't related to any real-world phenomenon, whereas most of the others have a defineable size, albeit only
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Informal units with procedural definition: Things like measuring distance by the time it takes to smoke a cigarettes, or by the number of farsees. Intended as an actual measurement, not just hyperbole.
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This is a stellar analysis. I disagree that category 3 is uninteresting, as this category contains the items that have gone beyond social constructions to become artifacts of engineering practice.
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Standard comparisons: Things that people routinely compare to for a sense of magnitude. Size of Wales, length of a football field, height of the Empire State Building, cost of a cup of coffee, etc.
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has an external link to a page on which it says (about some quantities, including the Shake): "Needless to say, none of these are in any kind of standards, yet. We just made them up on usenet." --
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Should "Cut-lunch-and-a-water-bag" be on this list? It really isn't a unit of measurement but seems to be an expression. That is, I don't think anyone would refer to n Cut-lunch-and-a-water-bags.
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Created units: Invented to be funny or make some editorial point, or both. Some are well-defined and could actually be used, such as a smoot. Others are not, such as hobo power, the warhol, etc.
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I'd like to retract the above comment. A more careful search for "water" and "sydharb" gives the strong impression that this is a real unit. Apparently it has been included in one dictionary. --
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this is a real word used by real scientists to produce real (and rather dramatic) results. I suppose if it wasn't used by a 'narrow community' it wouldn't belong on a list of 'strange units.'
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I've had a look at the reference provided (the PDF) and it doesn't mention anything about jokes. It is headed 'Australian Conventional Units of Measurement in Water'. Looks legitimate to me.
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Section is unsourced. At best it is not encyclopedic or merciful. At worst it could be a clever lie by someone with a personal vendetta. Also, it could get Knowledge (XXG) in legal trouble.
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of dodgy estate agents is universal - I hadn't heard of the actual phrase before either, as I'm British, not USian). But the point about "bee's dick" is that it's just one of
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of phrases used in Australia, Britain, the US and elsewhere meaning "just a little bit", none of which belong on a list alongside furlong/firkin/fortnight or the attoparsec.
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We seriously need to raise the bar for notability in this article. Might I suggest that all units that are not commonly known or are not supported by references be moved to
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phrasing "don't you dare" makes me dig my heels in. It is a reasonable field of study, especially in the future. But with all due civility, you could be pulling our legs.
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A "Ranchette" (1/2 picoacre) may qualify for addition here, and as nerd humor also, being used in semiconductor design (see Bob Pease, Electronic Design, March 3, 1997).--
568:. If we list "bee's dick", I think we have to list every possible phrase in the English language for "not very much", which is not really what this list seems to be for.
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I've heard of it independently a few times before. I think if a few people who've commented here have heard about it, then it's not a hoax. I've removed the hoax box. --
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Even with no reorganization, perhaps we can decide which kinds of units, or sorts of each kind, we wish to include on this page, so as to sort the wheat from the chaff.
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Well, perhaps if "Homing pidgeon through a wormhole with a flashmemory in it's beak" were an unusual unit of measurement - then we could include it - but it isn't, and
523:, and it seems slightly too good to be true to me. Does anyone know of any references to back it up? I've tried Googling but I'm only finding Knowledge (XXG) mirrors.
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the other reference, presumably you noticed that it mentioned the name as being a joke and decided to remove it. Not very clever. Here is the reference you removed:
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it'll be an RfD - and it could easily fail that test. So - let's thin out the junk and try to stick with GENUINE units that people actually use (albeit strangely).
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units--seems very uninteresting. Especially since arcane, obscure, and obsolete aren't "unusual" in any sense except "uncommon". And that hardly seems notable.
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This must be some strange meaning of the word "obsolete": most of the rest of the English-speaking world is happily still talking about fortnights, you know.
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Since the so-called reference suggests the name "Sydharb" as a joke unit, and there is no evidence of it being used, I have removed the info again, pending
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The fact that the 3600 seconds of the hour cancel out with one second in watt (kg·m²/s³) is indeed a bit strange (1 kW·h = 3.6 MJ = 3.6E6 kg·m²/s²); the
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Since nearly every Western household has at least one Christian Bible, and the Bible is a comparatively long book, it was often chosen for this purpose.
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I certainly heard of the "shake" in the context of nuclear weapons, well before the advent of the usenet. The shake already has its own wikipedia page
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Why would someone use this unit of measurement for mass. Newtons work just fine for me, let alone the poundals, i don't even want to get into that!
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1248:. Can anyone provide a more reliable source, since otherwise I'll be deleting this entry as a neologism started by someone about their friend.
1457:, and that they only be moved back for the case that proper references for notability be included. Alternatively, they could be moved to the
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The measuring was done in a 1950's high-school lab by a very young Donald Knuth -- the number of significant figures is of course a joke...
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documentation somewhere, then it needs to be very much shorter than it is now. The deletions have been a bit arbitrary from what I can see.
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As I see it, most entries on this page fall under one of the following categories (obviously not a unique decomposition, some overlap):
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homing pidgeon. That's a fairly pathetic 22Kbits/s which is easily out-performed by even a fairly clunky dialup Internet connection.
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Nothing strange about the kWh. It was for a long time (maybe still is) the standard unit under which electricity is billed in the UK.
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I had a look at my notes of years ago, and talked to some former collegues. It has been "Semeilen/Woche" (NM/week), not km/week... --
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No, it's real. See Cecil Adams' "Straight Dope" books, its where I got it from. I trust Cecil, if he says its true, it should be.
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real units in use. Incidentally there is a unit listed of "one lazy gardener" which seems to be missing from the current page. --
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Good enough for me. Out it goes, if it's real then someone else will eventually re-add it and hopefully cite sources this time.
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Megabits/second - considerably better than many people's modem connection - perhaps better than a typical broadband link.
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As far as "football fields" go, here are some examples of their use as units of measure right here on Knowledge (XXG):
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You're right. How do I make footnotes? Regarding the See also part, someone already fixed it. Thanks for responding.
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certainly a joke unit, but it's a hoary old joke unit. I believe it's as well qualified as many of the other entries.
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Why? It is a commonly used derived SI unit. What is strange about it?
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Would it be because there's no such thing as a "pidgeon", perhaps?
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That's not strange at all...and the hour is "accepted" by the SI.
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units of measurement"? "Strange" doesn't sound very encyclopedic.
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1052:. Altho, despite these being real units, it still my be a hoax.
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Keep. In its present form, a perfectly good item on a piece of
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Units of comparison (cigarette, Wales, hairsbreadth, sydharb).
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reversion, this is now out of sorts with other Wiki articles.
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I've heard and used it jokingly as well. It's not a hoax. --
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Keep. It's a joke with a long tradition (pre-web times...) --
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I agree, but your fourth item should probably come second.
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Here’s a comedic suggestion for a new set of water-metrics:
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http://www.ct.astro.it/report/rep2004/oacrep04/node38.html
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http://www.physics.arizona.edu/physics/research/space.html
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Hm... that brings to mind units used in mystical rituals.
1621:. It links to a partial (abridged) mirror of the book at
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So that issue has been measured to a sub-atomic level?
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Talk:List of strange units of measurement/Candidates
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http://www.inl.gov/mediaresources/docs/acronyms.pdf
228:Relocate, probably under the (as yet non-existant)
1549:Obscure or obsolete units: Board feet, grave, etc.
404:I don't want to be overly pedantic, but isn't the
367:strange enough units of measurement? Just asking.
990:What on earth does "it comes in disguise" mean?
677:go, as it is used in the same manner. --Added by
189:case for it to have an entry in Knowledge (XXG).
1743:http://nuclear.llnl.gov/CNP/apt/apt/aptconm.html
1499:http://www.answers.com/a+mile+a+minute&r=67
1877:http://www.perldesignpatterns.com/?MilliGraham
1807:http://www-x.phys.metro-u.ac.jp/Welcome-e.html
1365:Hence we cannot compare the two meaningfully.
1068:Is the "Distance" a hoax? It is not listed at
929:Here's a random reference for football field:
782:http://www.atse.org.au/index.php?sectionid=631
246:Keep, highly amusing and very well explained.
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1837:http://www.astro.psu.edu/users/jian/title.htm
1506:Discussion to Clarify/Organize Subject Matter
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1730:http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/dictT.html
1716:http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/dictS.html
806:100 dead wetlands = one Sydharb, and so on …
359:I mostly do cultural stuff on Wiki, but are
1960:Sagans and Sagans of Chocolate Chip Cookies
1930:Nearly every Western household has a bible?
1614:1986 Hugo Award for Best Non-Fiction Book.
1246:http://www.jroller.com/page/rolsen/20051231
1299:I have reorg'ed the article as discussed.
1915:a rather large, obsolete unit (fortnight)
1678:By the way, according to Knowledge (XXG)
18:Talk:List of unusual units of measurement
1802:http://physics.uchicago.edu/x_astro.html
440:issue 26, or 2.263348517438173216473 mm.
1625:. The definition of a milliHelen is at
264:The above is the former content of the
1822:http://www.sdss.org/tour/eag.home.html
797:10 teenage showers = one lazy gardener
430:The basic unit of this system was the
44:Do not edit the contents of this page.
1627:http://www.besse.at/sms/glossary.html
1623:http://www.besse.at/sms/smsintro.html
800:100 lazy gardeners = one Olympic pool
355:Can Standard Units Be Strange Enough?
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856:Hampton Terrace Hotel, North Augusta
773:Oh ho ho ho. Since you conveniently
157:Feb 21 to Feb 26 2004. Discussion:
119:(Comment moved to bottom of section)
1832:http://physics.syr.edu/ESPAHome.htm
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1258:Better organisation of the article
872:Independent State of Rainbow Creek
864:Cathedral of Saint John the Divine
803:100 Olympic pools = 1 dead wetland
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1558:I bring this up for two reasons:
1323:Carrier Pidgeon with Flash memory
794:10 long shaves = 1 teenage shower
221:Keep; it's got a long tradition.
1570:Ideas? Comments? Accusations?
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1552:Strange definitions: Assay ton.
1108:...or alternatively, how about
852:David Grant USAF Medical Center
503:16:55, September 6, 2005 (UTC)
496:04:15, September 6, 2005 (UTC)
164:- Mainly listed to prevent bad
1471:This seems like a good thing.
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1501:. So, should it be included?
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506:Also: "metric butt-load". :)
1664:Jerk section: suspected hoax
1497:Oops, I guess it is common:
1309:What should go on this page.
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408:a unit of volume, not mass?
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1843:not pulling anyone's leg. -
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1617:The author's website is at
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1780:More references for jerk:
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1609:The milliHelen: not a hoax
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1812:http://cosray2.wustl.edu/
1603:11:59, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
1528:Joke and editorial units
1393:definitely applies here!
555:Bee's dick and poofteenth
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1862:Removed Graham and Barr
1619:http://www.tweller.com/
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84:I moved this page from
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949:Good enough for me!!
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1922:The Wednesday Island
1598:It's already here.--
1590:someone wanna add a
533:I'm calling B.S. --
1901:Randal L. Schwartz
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