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it already looks sorted). I see from the top table that this is likely related to their names starting with Republic (e.g., Republic of Moldova). But in the top table, it does not give the full name, only Moldova (e.g.), in an alphabetically out of order (in terms of what actually appears, and where you would be looking for the country) location. I would like to fix the top table, too, but I see things are based on the flagg template and I am not familiar with it, so was hoping someone with more knowledge on this could do it, or tell me how. I can see that we could perhaps just cut the "Republic of" parts, but is there a better way? Cheers!
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Hello! I moved a few countries in the tables to have them in alphabetical order by default. I could not see any reason to have the table so very nearly alphabetical, and not perfectly so (it looks initially like South Korea is not in the list, for example, and one is not inspired to sort it because
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The top of the article makes the claim that Greenland has the highest suicide rate "by a wide margin" but is not even listed in the countries below. I would think maybe it is because Greenland is a part of Denmark, but Denmark's numbers do not reflect Greenland being added in.
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But the general trend can be interesting, at least for cases that are interesting. Lesotho and Zimbabwe stick out. But I have to make graphs to find those, I'm definitely not reading a large table. So a graph of the unusual cases or perhaps high-variance cases could be useful.
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Yes, I do. There's no need to erase the information to highlight trends or particular cases; these can be highlighted with charts and prose as suggested. If the table is visually polluting, hiding it under a dropdown will do. —
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And for picking out which countries, if any, had anything other than a linear trend, prose should be used. Perhaps outliers within continents could also be noted with prose, but the map is doing a pretty good job of that
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had discussed the table here before cutting so much of it. Having many years of data helps one see the variability in the rate from year to year. A single year-to-year change column is not adequate for this purpose.
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would suggest that women attempt suicide at similar rates to men but are less successful. I suggest changing this clause to say "men are more at risk of death by suicide than women" or something to that effect.
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The historical tables which track the years 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2018 and 2019 are pretty unreadable and seem like
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I don't know if the data are really good enough to see a simple change from one year to the next and take it as gospel. If you look on the site they give wide error bars in some cases.
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The numbers for change % in suicide between 2000 and 2019 don't add up at all. I dont even know how they were calculated and don't know how to edit or import a table to fix them.
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anyway, i personally like random order a lot, and i believe we should have more of such options! then, sure, press headers to order by each column.
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I think the current table has the incorrect labels for Female and Male, because it's currently showing the female rate as higher.
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There might be another graph to add, but it's hard to think of one that can handle 200 data points. Maybe trend by continent.
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to me. If there's some interesting trend going on then editors need to pick them out and write them down, or make a graph.
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very curious to why it did not stay sorted as such! but not curious enough to explore edit log. 😁
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I put up a version with some of my suggestions. Would be curious to hear your thoughts so far.
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in English for countries, and sorting should reflect those names, not the formal names.
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Maybe we could make it more interesting than just raw years. Here's some other ideas:
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Commiting is not the same as attempting, so that clarification wouldn't make sense.
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https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190313-why-more-men-kill-themselves-than-women
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is reasonably able to handle most names, especially the most common.
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Change from 2000-2019 (with or without listing 2000)
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