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is in Kinmen, but they call an island of Matsu 'Shi Yu' too. I don't know if this is informal or official. 另外，06據點距離雲記山莊也不遠。此處可遠眺大坵、獅嶼、高登等地，乃是十分重要的作戰陣地。
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