Talk:MS Sea Diamond

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sense whatsoever for anyone not dealing directly with the US to use that currency. I was under the impression that Wiki guidlines state that we use local currency for dealing with figures, i.e. British films budgets will always be in Pounds. I do not know what gives you the impression that international business is always done in US dollars but i promise you this is not the case. Same thing as not all Burgers served in the world are from US companies, not all soft drinks are from Coke or Pepsico, not all coffee houses are Starbucks etc.. etc.. Please allow other far older and more civilised nations in the world to have their own currency.

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this location (i.e., in the hull below the freeboard deck) be fitted with a hinged watertight deadlight cover on the interior side, which can be readily closed and secured during heavy weather (as a precaution in case the glass pane is broken by waves). The arrangement in the photo is typical: the deadlight cover is hinged on the top edge so that it can be held open and out of the way against the ceiling. (Refer to Regulation 23 of the International Convention on Load Lines, 1966 (as amended by the ICLL Protocol of 1988)).--

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things were built of a few millimeters thick aluminium at best and internal cabin walls made of plywood and plastiline. The hull also must have been light, few ribs, thin steel sheets and little compartmentalization (bulkheads are heavy). Maybe if people cared a damn about safety and could live with two promenade decks less and sans topmost swimming pool, the cruise liners could be built a little sturdier.

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original source was a US press source and therefore would have performed a currency conversion against the Euro figure that was taken from whoever was their own source on this. You may think i am being picky here but surely there are other Europeans on here that do not want to see this Americanisation of the world go so far as to assume that any business done in the world would be in US$ .

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speaking in a friendly manner, the title of your comment looks to me like the hysterical headlines we got her and is - in my opinion - invalid. The simple reason the ship was sunk is that nobody seemed like wanting to save it. Looks to me like it was left to sink, instead of starting some rescue effort. Why was this done is beyond the engineering scope, however.

1684:. I think the purchase price in the currency of the transaction should be listed, if known; or else the currency of the buyer; or the seller; or else—or possibly in addition for comparison purposes—the price in US Dollars or Pounds Sterling as an international factor. (Which one did the Common Market do most of their transactions in at that point?) — 1427:

I really don't think en.wikipedia.org, being some kind of überwikipedia, often used as well in nonenglish countries (not to mention lots of english-speaking countries that are not the US), should be overly US-centric. Basically, I did learn of them because from this wikipedia article, and would never

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Are you sure the "window" that is open in the picture is not an inside window cover? Because I haven't found a single window that could be opened on ships built after 1977. Plus (although I admit this is far from the most reliable source), in an episode of the Rederiet TV series a big point was made

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One issue is what currency the source used. If they only expressed the price in dollars, then it is not unreasonable to leave it stated as dollars only. Not only do we not know the currency of the transaction, but we also do not know the exchange rate at the time of the transaction! That is at least

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This is definately still a current event, at least in Santorini. Nine months have passed and the Sea Diamond is still laying in our waters, polluting the Aegean sea. When will the fuel, batteries, and various toxic products still onboard the ship be removed? Santorini locals are concerned with the

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Compared with the Mikhail Lermontov - where several water-tight doors also failed - it was suspected that this may have been caused by distortion of the ship's hull caused by the impact. It also appears that most of the safety equipment on the Sea Diamond was very much better maintained than on the

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Is the part about the school students really important? While I don't doubt that 77 high schoolers were on board and rescued, they don't seem to have a special connection to the desaster the way the french family whose members are missing have - the students are mere 77 of about 1600 of the rescued

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but I guess, since they all are constantly immersed in nautical matters, they take it for granted. Note that throughout the entire project they use the pronoun "she". Countries used to also be referred to as "she", but that was a term more in use during the days of empire. It's since fallen out of

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The other thing that crossed my mind is whether sailors made any distinction between a "living," still-afloat ship and a wrecked ship. Since that would be an esoteric distinction in the nautical community, and since "she" is in common usage to refer to ships, "she" is the pronoun with the strongest

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This is scary. If a stupid reef can sink a luxury liner, what stops a bunch of terrorists in a trotil-laden rubber dingy from ramming and sinking one of the recent 300+ meter megaliners? Shouldn't ocean liners have double hull, reinforced keel, pugliese, torpedo belt, deck armour, 5000 compartments

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I cannot understand why this ship sunk after getting a hole in the bottom? I mean double hulls have been used in shipbuilding for at least 120 years. Add compartmentalization, massive bilge pumps and a small army sized crew available during havaria events. With all this a 150 meter long ship simply

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In the past there has been some confusion on (the english) Knowledge as to what exactly are deadweight tonnage and displacement. Resultingly in several articles DWT still remains in the wrong field (it should be under tonnage). I've gone and re-added the DWT figure, but now in the correct field. —

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These “open porthole” flooding cases are not modern cruise ships. Although openable side scuttles once were necessary for cabin ventilation, this is not necessary (nor desirable) in modern air conditioned cruise ships. Furthermore, current load line regulations state that if a side scuttle would

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Referring to the cabin photo: the “porthole” is not open, nor does it appear to be openable. In naval architecture parlance, circular windows are called “side scuttles.” International load line regulations in force at the time of her original construction (in 1985) required that side scuttles in

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Only since the discussion keeps happening again and again. Actually, WP:SHIPS has taken the issue under discussion a number of times (see the archives), but no clear consensus was reached. All things considered, I say go with the first-editor's-usage rule, and whatever the majority of usage in the

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It should be noted that modern liners are indeed built like paper boats. This ship was 6.25 meters tall under the waterline and about 20 meters tall over the water. Considering Archimedes' law, this means the whole superstructure was about as dense as dry sponge on average. Possibly the whole deck

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and they are some of the largest public ceramic works made in Finland outside the Arabia ceramic factory. Åsa Hellman, living in Porvoo, is known for works influenced by the Mediterranean culture. Now her ceramic fishes swim 140 meters below the surface of the Aegean Sea and have "returned to the

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Good point, can the person who wrote the section in question tell us where the figure came from? the source used does not mention a figure at all. The German shipbuilder would have invoiced in Deutsche marks, that should be the assumption with no evidence to say otherwise. It is possible that the

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So therefore if this work pre-dated the Euro then the payment would have been in Deutsche marks, It is not reasonable to assume that two European countries would do business in US dollars. In fact during the last 10 years the US dollar has been so unpredictable and weak that it would not make any

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The was launched from drydock in 1985 and delivered in 1986. I'm fixing the article body text to display the delivery date. Also, for some reason the infobox doesn't seem to be displaying all the years entered to it; if you look at it whilst editing the article, there's a lot of info that doesn't

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Santorini is an active volcano. Was the rock she hit charted, or is it a new feature resulting from volcanic activity? If the latter, then this is important news in its own right. Santorini is strongly implicated in the destruction of the Minoan civilization, and may be the source of the Atlantis

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That way the other passengers would have a chance to get out if they were stuck. The thing that concerns me is that there was a hole in the side but what about the Andrea Doria? The andria Doria got another ship to plow through it and it sank in more time than it did this one. strange don't you

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All the things you mentioned helped in keeping the ship afloat to take out 1,100+ passengers. From a 20m gap (that's 1/6th of the ship length !), taking more than 12 hours to sink is incredible in my opinion (and since I'm a shipbuilder myself, I believe my opinion does have some importance). So,

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Reference 12 claims the reef was well-marked, but a later study showed the reef was further out to sea and shallower than represented on the map. While it was irresponsible to approach a volcanic cliff so close, it was not a result of misreading the map. (Though I am a bit perplexed on how they

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I put them partly because they are the reference for use of the car ramp for evacuation. (See the videos by YouTube:zakhayes1. There are also written reference on the web.) They have also been widely reported in the news; in fact it seem that they may have given the face to U.S. coverage of the

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Modern shipbuilding regulations stipulate very strict rules about watertights compartments. Additionally aluminium is relatively rarely used in shipbuilding at it hardens and cracks as it ages. Additionally in order to have an 1 A ice class the hull must be relatively thick, at least along the

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This is true. I'm still amazed how many people they managed to get out, and how slowly it sank. The most disappointing thing I've seen here is that the crew panicked, according to some passengers, more than the passengers themselves did, and there's also the fact that the reef was clearly

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We'd need to find sources for all of that. I've visited Thira and the other Islands of Santorini and you're quite right, the volcano is pushing up new land in the centre of its caldera. And the Atlantis myth is anecdotally attached to the archaeological digs on the South of Thira.

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With regard to the original purchase, price, I don't think that can be effectively converted to Euros, simply because of the time factor involved. There are too many calculations here that, unless a published reliable source does the conversion, that kind of conversion is

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as "He" in the middle of a sentence (reflecting a Christian perspective) rather than "he". As we're not all Christians, we're also not all sailors. Referring to ships by the pronoun "she" instead of "it" simply to satisfy a specific group of people doesn't make sense.

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My bad. I should've checked if someone had just writteni in the wrong field instead of giving wrong figures. Thanks for fixing that up. I guess I'll have to keep an eye open for such errors while browsing through shipping-related articles in the future.

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No problem, the removal was easily fixed. :) There are probably still many articles with the same mistake around (and I'm to blame for some of them), as very few wiki editors seem to care enough about non-military ships to give them proper attention. —

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Yes, I believe it is an outside window; that is what the text says. Also, the same page has pictures of inside cabins; they have a mirror in place of the window. Note the brass hook on the roof, to keep the porthole cover in the open position. --

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Personally I'm not sure about this sentence: "These water-tight doors are one of the most important safety features of a cruiser, and the fact that they didn't work raises serious suspicions on the nature of the company's safety practices."

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etc. installed, considering there are over 1000 to 3000 civilian people on each one? Cars and train carts are built to strong crash-protection standards to protect people from all aspects. Why are ships built like fold-paper boats?

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Ok, I believe when I see it, it shall be Åland flag then. This is new to me – in the past the Åland registered ships sailed under the flag of Finland as Åland is not a country. Regulations seem to have changed in the meantime.

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I can't translate the whole thing, but I can spot enough words to get the gist of it. It speaks of the ship and some ceramic pieces installed in her when she was the Birka Princess. For example the picture's caption

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ones, and thus their mentioning is not of encyclopaedic value. With the same right one could argue to have a passengers list, including every other rescued person, in this article. I'd say we should axe that part. --

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think. The boats marked this spot up and we'll know when they take a dive to it to see what happened. Let's hope they wrote down cowardenants. This is a sad day in greek ship history. it went down with a fight.

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The ship was pulling into a port when it was beached and got a hole ripped into its side when they went to tow it. Why didn't they just leave the ship there in the rocks and make a more secure evacuation?

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waterline. That said, all the extra stuctures added to the ship in the 1999 and 2006 refits were probably built of aluminium, oterwise she would have probably become too top heavy to be stable. -

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This is why Captain of the ship took her in deeper waters (she had a in-water depth of about 6m. and still stroke the reef. Imagine that - twice as high as your home's ceiling and still mortal!

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experience of the accident, you could best contribute to the article by uploading images. If you want to include some trivia, it is best done as image captions to your own photographs. --

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A researcher commenting on the damage she suffered while rolling to the bottom of the caldera said that the boad rolled on the sliding terrain and ended up on current position.

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have otherwise (living in Germany)... I think the High Schoolers have earned themself a recognition in form of an reference, but not really a mentioning within the article. --

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Besides, the refit was done in 1999 when the Euro was not yet in use... and she was owned by Birka Line at the time, not Louis, soa Sweden-based shipping company. -

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Does anyone know if there are images of the wreck itself out there? I Know that there are lots of photos of the sinking, but i have found nothing about the wreck.

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I would assume the English language requires inanimate objects be "it". Countries are also sometimes described with the pronoun "she", but Knowledge uses "it". --

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that much closer to the sea. It is highly likely, that the ship could have been saved without these changes. We should cover the stability issue in the article.

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Why would a Cyprus based cruise ship company be paying for a refurb from a German shipbuilders in US Dollars?? Surely the money paid would have been Euro's?

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Actually, the purchase and refurb prices are not mentioned in the provided sources. I'm going to tag them for verification needed; otherwise, they come out.

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It is clear that the changes made to the ship in 1999 and later decreased her stability. They also increased her draught by 0.3 meters, bringing the lover

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Russian vessel, so I think it's a bit dicey to speculate on poor maintenance of the vessel. Is there any other evidence that points to poor maintenance?

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In the loss of the cruise ship Sea Diamond near the island of Santorini two large works of the ceramic artist Åsa Hellman were also lost. Wallsculptures

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Anybody know the coordinates for the wreck site? There's a placemarker on Google Earth but I don't think its accurate. It doesn't match the photo. --

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cabin. I have also speculated on this. Is it possible that the water in cabin 2206 entered, not through a leak, but throug an open porthole? --

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The launch date in the article body and the one in the side box are different, and im quite honestly too lazy to look into which one is correct

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Heheh, well handled. I hope, though, that we don't end up with a huge influx of grinning, life-jacket-wearing mugshots and other imagecruft. --

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Speaking of seaworthyness, I must state that Titanic took 2 hours to sank, compared on 15 hours of Sea Diamond - and was much larger than her.

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She was no ocean-liner, but originally built for Baltic Sea. She was owned by Birka Line, a company that operates between Finland and Sweden.

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Do we have names for the people missing and/or the wife and son of the missing Frenchman? I've looked everywhere and I can't find them.

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Here are some amateur videos I found on the web. Some could be linked to from the article. It would also be great if we could find some

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Do we know if the missing people were travelling with a tour group, and which tour group this was. Steve 00:59, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

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the wreck is 200 m deep. i took some pictures at the port (low Q), menly of the oil spil effects. check them at my commons account

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reference to the sinkning of the Mikhail Lermontov because there are several similarities between that wreck and the Sea Diamond:

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Seeing that I don't have anything better to do... Mind you, I'm not a professional translator so this will sound a bit crappy.

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Thanks so much for translating that, Kjet! Now us-non-Finnish speakers can verify those details from the article. Thanks!

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I attempted to find an online English translator for Finnish, that would work with the Finnish source cited in the article (

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Cyprus does not (yet) use the Euro as it's main currency. It is reasonable that this international business is done in USD.

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LOL "returned to the reign of Poseidon" I thought that's what the last line read, but I thought I must have been crazy. --

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material to post on Commons. If we find the original creators, maybe we can ask them to release under a free license. --

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It is true that s*** happens always - if it didn't, we on wikipedia wouldn't have anything but nice stories to write on.

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Hey, this is current event stuff- it is already scheduled to change thus named that! Let us pray for the two missing.

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If they didn't move the ship and kept it stabbed, less water would have leak in it and it wouldn't sink that fast.

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It seems that bluedonkeyman is the creator of the night time footage and the sinking footage widely circulated.

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It is true though that they reside on the side that broke through and this may be why they are still missing.

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User:69.204.131.53 points out an interestig fact; passengers might have kept the port holes open. The

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to show this, but it is also evident from photograps, where the text on the stern changes from

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Almost 100 years after Titanic, seaworthiness has actually degraded, even on the drawing table!

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A Greek scuba diver died whilst investigating the Sea Diamond shipwreck in October 2007.

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I removed the displacement (said to be "2,441 metric tons") as it's definitely wrong.

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In both cases the only casualties were people in the vicinity of the initial impact.

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Flag of Finland was my decision, but I have seen later the photo of this ship with

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The sculptures were manufactures in the Pot viapori ceramic workshop in Suomenlinna

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generally researchable, but still, that's a fair bit of synthesis of information. —

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How could reef be 'well-marked' if a later study showed the charts were wrong?

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Does anybody know if the two persons who went missing have been found or not?

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Who can ensure though, that the rescue ships wouldn;t stuck on the reefs too?

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User talk:69.204.131.53#Titanic more seaworthy than most cruise ships today!

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Searching for "open porthole" on Google gives some interesting precedence:

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mangaged to escape the accident scene by driving a steam train through the

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Fixed it already - added info on missing and current status of the event

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Can we please have some consistancy- is this boat a 'she' or an 'it'?

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out of the fact the cabin windows in the ship could not be opened. -

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Hospital Ship Britannic FAQ - Tell me about the open porthole theory

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event. Beside, I think that this material by zakhayes1 is great! --

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ecological consequences and have began complaining for the delay.

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the ship wasnt towed for repairs...it sank this morning wtf?

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Both vessels were near port and sailing in ideal conditions.

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legends. So, renewed activity is of considerable interest.--

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They haven't been found. Its very unlikely they will be. --

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Greek Cruise Ship Sinks After Crash in Aegean Sea Santorini

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Their names are Anne and Raphel according to this Article

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Greek scuba diver killed whilst investigating Sea Diamond

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