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239: 134: 113: 202: 82: 762: 21: 52: 871:"Some mouse pads with fabric bonded to rubber can be put into a washing machine. But it should be inside a pillow cover, the temperature not higher than 30C/86F and the shortest program being used. A laundry detergent without softener because of the rubber and no centrifugation. Drying the Mousepad is done between two towels without exposure to direct sunlight." 350:, by Edwin D. Reilly, 2003, says "The first such pad was 'invented' by Jack Kelley, who went on to become a noted designer of furniture." He probably got it from one of the sources we already cite, so it's not really much of a confirmation. It's not clear what he intended by putting "invented" in quotes. 425:
There are many, many more that show partial photos with mousepads, or that show them less clearly, this was just a sampling before I decided I had enough to come back and report. These mousepads seem more similar to modern ones than the one described in Fernandez' disclosure, which was obviously made
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Are you doing it *with* the quotes? Because if you do it with the quotes, to preserve *exactly* what's between them, what you'll find is exactly what I say. Often a page will use both, but if one only uses "mousepad", it does not show up when you search for "mouse pad". Try them with the quotes, and
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So I decided since we can't find much textual proof in any direction to instead look for photographic evidence of the use of mousepads during the 1970s to determine when something that we would now call a mousepad first possibly started appearing in pictures of computer work environments. As soon as
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and later linked to a scanned copy. A couple of glances within the article doesn't show anything about mousepads, and I suspect that the article might not be related to the statement at hand. If the reference can't be confirmed (either providing a page number or a quotation), I am suggesting it be
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Shouldn't it be mentioned that mouse pads often have a popular or custom image printed on them, and are a part of office decoration? (Please don't say "someone else has to publish it first before we can add it paraphrased" because nobody else is going to publish that. Verifiability doesn't apply to
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If he's unwilling to discuss this beyond "it's common sense", "this has been here for months" and a lie about it only being one user reverting him, sure. I'll request it now. Given that another editor has taken the time to find a source and only found sources saying
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But also note that the 1982 article uses "mouse pad" :) Anyway, I've sent that article off to the OED now to see if they will update the entry. Also, the OED suggests looking at a particular Scientific American as part of the history of the
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I would oppose a move, because the current name is fine, and very popular. "Mousepad" gets way more google hits than "mouse pad". Also note that the OED didn't find the use of "special patterned mouse pad" in the cited 1982 article.
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1977 Sci. Amer. Sept. 234/2 The user makes his primary input through a typewriterlike keyboard and a pointing device called a mouse, which controls the position of an arrow on the screen as it is pushed about on the table beside the
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Perhaps the quotation marks indicate that he is repeated a quotation, or perhaps that he doesn't think the mouse pad is much of an invention. Luckily, it's not our job to solve that riddle. Either way, it's a source. Good find!
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British here - no one actually says "mouse mat" that I know of. Google seems to agree, hits for "mousemat" and "mouse mat" are in the low hundreds of thousands, while "mouse pad" and "mousepad" total multiple million.
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The Reference is common sense. This has been here for months and nobody did mind the information that fabric mouse pads can be cleaned. Then a edit war between me and a keen user swept over here and time got wasted.
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What the OED claims as standard American English, and what is actually used, is often a little different, dear to my heart as they are. 6,490,000 ghits for "mousepad", 2,310,000 ghits for "mouse pad". Leave as is.
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Another of his IP addresses has again put the section back, along with a suggestion to "use the talk or start your own wiki". I prefer the former. But where is 79? Do we need to seek semi-protection?
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Actually, the hits for "mouse pad" include the hits for "mousepad", but not vice versa, so the numbers are meaningless. You have to look at the term that people are actually using within those hits.
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A quick google search seems to confirm that "mouse pad" is more common although, being British, I don't know because I always say "mousemat". I think the article should be moved. Any thoughts?
392:(ARC) from the late 60s to 1974 when the funding dried up and a good many of the researchers moved to Xerox PARC. All photos were donated to Stanford by Douglas Englebert (can be found here: 388:, a Stanford site detailing the history of the mouse. Nowhere on the site is the mousepad mentioned, however, what there *is* is photographic evidence of Englebert's time spent with the 296:
See p.21, last paragraph in the short section titled "Design Goals," which says "...most users of ball mice use a special pad anyway to increase the friction on the ball."
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I can't see anything I'd identify as a mousepad in those, but there were some very clear in the photos linked before, so it doesn't really matter.
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Images aren't loading for me, although they did in the past. When it comes up, we can grab a small portion of the image or otherwise get a
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Now I see it. I strongly suggest adding the page number for that reference, as a single quote like that is easy to miss. --
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chiefly Brit., a small pad over which a computer mouse is moved to produce movement of the pointer on the monitor screen.
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invented, named or documented the mousepad will be removed from the article or this talk page unless supported by a new,
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Having looked up mousepad in the OED, I have found that there should be a space in it - ie "mouse pad" not "mousepad".
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is already referenced in the article and does not support these claims. Claims that Armando Fernandez
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Anyone able to get their hands on a copy - I wasn't reading SciAm when I was three months old!
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This article has received repeated vandalism by an anonymous editor asserting the
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is now on the IP to provide a source that says otherwise before re-adding it. --
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I started to look for the environment, instead of the mousepad itself, I found
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inventor and namer of the mousepad. The only source presented by this editor
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who all removed it for the above reason. Beyond that, "common sense" and
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for the later optical mice over the early mice with wheels.--
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