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reason, the blame was put on the servants and they were cursed, according to scholar M. Weinfeld. One group that is known for being the first to document this type of agreement was the Hittites. The purpose of this treaty was to ensure future loyalty and alliance of the vassal since the suzerain had previously done favors for them. This is the type of treaty made with Abraham when God presents him with the Decalogue.
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covenants, there are two main types of covenants exposed throughout the Toarah. The two covenants include: 1. an obligatory covenant, or "treaty" as evidenced through the covenant between Yahweh and Israel & 2. a promissory covenant, or "royal grant" as evidenced by the Abrahamic and Davidic covenant.
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I think this paragraph gives a good understanding of a treaty. You represent what Weinfeld was saying. It is a little confusing containing more then one topic, but it shows the overall picture behind the covenant between God and Abraham. If you want to try to focus it more on one topic I would either
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A treaty is an agreement between two groups, one being of a higher power than the other. The suizerain, the masters, reaped the benefits of the agreement and the vassal, servants, would have the obligation to fulfill the stipulations that are presented in the treaty. If the treaty was broken for any
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I agree with Doug - the article is missing important points of the covenant tradition that are prominent in the Mosaic Covenant - like the ratification in blood (Exodus 24:6-8) and the stipulations(e.g. Deuteronomy 11:1-32). It seems to major on the arguments of one interpreter, Mendenhall, at the
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I'm currently a student studying the Old Testament utilizing an academic approach. That being said, I have been studying Mendenhall and Weinfeld's work regarding their research on biblical covenants. I think it's important to mention that despite varying theories pertaining to the creation of
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I think this article could benefit from having an example of what kind of covenants were found in the Ancient Near East. For example, the covenant made between God and Abraham, with the decalogue, would be informative.
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An article with so many scholars commenting shouldn't have such glaring errors as "As stated in the bible, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are the descendants of Israel." Can someone please clean this whole thing up?
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the Mosaic Covenant is brought back during the reign of King Josiah. Moses is viewed as a representative of Yahweh and his status is symbolized through being a first person speaker in the new covenant.
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talk more about treaties in general and present support or focus on the covenant between God and Abraham. Overall, I think it a good paraphrase of the main point Weinfeld was trying to prove.
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It says stuff like: "The establishment and stipulations of the Mosaic Covenant..." but never hints, much less explains what the terms of the covenant are. This should be in the Lead:
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Weinfeld, M. "The Covenant of Grant in the Old Testament and in the Ancient near East". Journal of the American Oriental Society, Vol. 90, No. 2 (Apr. - Jun., 1970), pp. 184-203.
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about Hittite suzerainty treaties and how they compare to the Mosaic covenant (particularly the
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expense of basic explanations. I will put them in the lead as Doug suggests.
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Mendenhall, George E. "Covenant Forms in Israelite Tradition".
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Adding historical/regional context to the Mosaic covenant
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