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I dont see anywhere referencing madonna's tolerance of the LGBT community in her artwork. Songs like "Deeper and Deeper" and "In This Life" that talk about homosexual tolerance. Also i dont see anywhere referencing how she often uses gay men in her videos and on her tours and has for over 20 years. I
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A lot of LGBTQIA people may use the word "queer" when referring to the LGBTQIA community, but I know a lot of LGBTQIA people are also offended by the term "queer". Personally, I'm not offended by labels, but I'm not looking to offend anybody else either, so I would definitely oppose a change to
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