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396: 162: 449: 424: 281: 22: 353: 342: 331: 80: 53: 90: 221: 194: 320: 309: 912:, the GI in question, was carrying a gun when he received his mortal wound, not a medical kit. He may have been trained as a medic. He may have been behaving honorably, and following legal orders. His death is certainly a tragedy for his loved ones. But I think calling him a medic that day is deceptive. 499:
To be more in-line with the Oxford Dictionary definition. Removed Nurse from the definition as a nurse is not a medic. No disrespect to nurse, I work with them all the time, but they would agree that they are not medics and I have been unable to find a single valid reference for them being defined as
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Yes all american medics do carry at least a sidearm. The Geneva Conventions states that medical personal have the right to defend themselves and their patients. So the statement above implying that SGT. Speer was not a medic at the moment that he carried a weapon is due to your lack of knowledge.
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Well, change it again if you feel so strongly. Personally, I don't. But it is important to note that "medic" is not strictly a military term, which is what the article previously said and was the reason that I changed it in the first place. And I do find it rather odd that you appear to be saying
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so far as I am concerned. Languages evolve. Some people try to compel language to follow their idea of how it should evolve -- generally without success. You realize that the professionals who compile dictionaries try to follow the common usage, not lead it? I provided links to various online
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is incorrect, since one is a general term and the other a more specific term. Is Knowledge (XXG) supposed to contain incorrect information for the sake of utility? I don't believe this is the purpose of an encyclopaedia. Since there is a link from this article to
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The Meg Ryan film, "Courage under fire", has her piloting a medevac helicopter, marked with red crosses, but armed with a machine gun, which, I believe, would have been a gross violation of the Geneva Conventions.
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has not been instantiated. I think the wikipedia history has value. This kind of change degrades the utility of the wikipedia because it obfuscates the earlier history of the evolution of the article's
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You have not addressed the loss of the information in the previous article's edit history caused by your edit decisions. Well, it is an important issue, whether you will acknowledge it or not. --
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I have changed the definition of paramedic from "medical professional" to "paramedical professional" as "medical professional" sounds too much like "medical practitioner" or infers "doctor".
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You see no problem with putting additional barriers between the encyclopedia's users and the information they are clearing searching for? Have you ever considered learned something about
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I thought these obligations and protections on a medic who wears a Red Cross were important. Frankly, I am annoyed that the re-write eliminates any mention of the Geneva Convention.
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This article has been subject to some wholesale revisions. But no one is explaining themselves here in the discussion page. Half the contributors didn't bother to fill out the
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field. This is non-collegial. It contributes to emotions getting heated. If an edit is trivial, or seems obvious, the explanation isn't of critical importance.
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is manageable. But, in principle, shouldn't we avoid making changes that require other articles to be changed, to the greatest extent possible? --
1021: 117: 996: 237: 395: 455: 429: 685:, which was practically brand new, and had practically no links to it, and, really, had little information to add, have been merged with 103: 58: 647:, and the context of almost all of those links is a combat context. This is how two dozen wikipedia authors have used the term 33: 552: 527: 39: 232:. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a 540: 515: 460: 434: 21: 978: 909: 548: 523: 610:
As had already been indicated by the merge message at the top, the information here was merged with
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that once an article has been created and linked to it cannot be moved. But each to his own. --
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will mean, in effect, is that the readers of those two dozen articles, who click on the link
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is not just a military one. All mentions of the Geneva Conventions have been moved there. --
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medics carry sidearms nowadays. I wonder whether he may have meant all
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I think that decision is a questionable one. If you check the
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That someone has stated an opinion is never enough to make it
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button of medic, and check the contents, you will see that '
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detainee, is routinely described as having killed a
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I am going to remove that redirection. -- 949:http://www.wordreference.com/definition/medic 915:Knowledge (XXG) contributor Blinks said that 598:Why aren't people explaining their revisions? 109:Manual of Style for medicine-related articles 8: 944:http://www.freesearch.co.uk/dictionary/medic 246:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Military history 720:Going to two dozen articles, and changing 418: 404:Military logistics and medicine task force 374: 288: 188: 47: 19: 172:the Emergency medicine and EMS task force 118:Knowledge (XXG) talk:WikiProject Medicine 537:[[User: mbchb 09:22, 14 September 2008 226:This article is within the scope of the 743:As has been stated already, the use of 576:does not make sense. If you check the 470:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Occupations 420: 190: 49: 236:. 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