Talk:Misogynoir - Knowledge

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format that uses social ranking to place an individual, and uphold the European centric beauty standard, the idea that European traits such as white skin are better. Examples of this can be seen in Latin America with claims like “Mejora la Raza” which translates to bettering the race or Brazil's Whitening campaign, which was an attempt to increase White Europeans to come to Brazil. The relationship between the two ideologies is important to look at as it affects Black women economically and politically. The erasure that is shown economically comes from the pay gap. On average Black Women are paid 21% less than white women, in the United States. This is worse in East Asia as when asked why Black Women are paid less they are met with the statement “I pay by country” Which is cruel as most of the jobs that are done by African Women, who are usually refugees, are demeaning tasks. Misogynoir in terms of political effects can be seen in the countless caste systems that are faced around the world. Systems of oppression such as the colonial system of stratification, a system that was used to keep Spaniards in power, have been used as a justification for the erasure of Black women in Latin America. Due to Black skin being seen as a disadvantage as the lowest point in caste systems that have a standard of Eurocentric beauty ideal.As when the colonization of Latin America began many individuals sought after relationships with Europeans in order to have some form of political power. But the hatred towards Black women continues today by example of marriages in South Korea with African refugees. As for most international marriages, Korean men are more likely to marry foreign women, but this is not the case as more Black men are bound to find marriage than black women. The last erasure of colorism from misogynoir, is the lack of conversation had by Black women in their workspaces where their opinion on things is tossed around and not to be noticed. A high percentage of the peers of Black Women in their workplace are willfully ignorant of the societal consequences of misogynoir. This type of erasure by colorists and the lack of response is what leads misogynoir to grow.

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neighborhoods, that they can also be famous and achieve a massive amount of wealth. However, these messages can come with derogatory and hypersexualized language directed towards women, essentially black women. Hip hop and rap music include a lot of misogynistic terms and phrases towards women in general, however this has been majorly affecting black women due to the way they are portrayed in music videos and in the media. Black women compared to white women, have been shown in music videos wearing very little or revealing clothing in the background while generally men are the center of attention for the videos. In these music videos, black women are referred to as “bitches”, “hoes”, “tricks”, and with some of the more recent terminologies, “thots”. In the “Gummo” song released by 6ix9ine, the artist states “Your girl on my phone / she wanna fuck but… I only want the jaw / that’s really all I use her for as I kick her out the door.” These lyrics represent that women are used generally for sexual pleasure and after that, they are pushed to the side and left in the background. These lyrics are prevalent in the majority of hip hop and rap songs, however can be found in a variety of different from rock and roll to country music. With repeated exposure to these types of lyrics found in hip hop, it can affect people’s stimuli because they prefer to subject to something that they are already used to.

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have in view now is "television." Can anything worse be imagined?". This reference is pretty bunk and does not establish that hybrid words (automobile, television, ...) are "bad form". I'm sorry that you/others are unable to view it; I have access via my university but I am obviously unable to link this.

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The next claims that as it is a hybrid word, it is "etymologically incorrect" - which makes no sense. The citations (refs 5&6) for this are the dictionary definitions of misogyny and noir - which establish the etymologies but not that their combination is "incorrect"--whatever that could possibly

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Another suggestion: use "In Music" and "In Other Media" rather than "Music" and "Media". Consider a reader who knows little of the subject and has only read the first couple sentences of the page. They might assume that the "Music" section is about "misogynoir music", music ABOUT misogynoir; but the

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Given that the rest of this article extensively cites Dr. Bailey's work on misogynoir (and indeed, that the person who keeps changing the first line hasn't bothered to change that), I'm having trouble imagining why anyone acting in good faith would keep editing in Mr. Mullen as the person who coined

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The next sentence, that hybrid words are bad form - is backed by a citation to an article/letter to a journal from 1928 about how the author is displeased by the word "television" and its mixed etymological roots. I'm pretty sure this letter is meant as a joke but it is hard to say. E.g. "The word I

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to the article. I thought that expanding on the topic in various forms of media is fruitful for the understanding of the topic. I did debate if music was type of media and if these two sections should be together under one heading. If you have any suggestions I'm all ears. I added the responses to

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Misogynoir is an important piece in colorism, discrimination faced by a darker individual in their own ethnic or racial group, due to the erasure of Black women in order to have lighter children. Colorism is dependent on Misogynoir as an ideology to help enforce a semi-caste system, a hierarchical

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Self published sources are described as being "usually" unreliable, not "always". For an article on a word that is largely used in media that Knowledge considers unreliable, I think it makes sense to allow the prior citations to stand. If you wait for a mainstream newspaper or magazine to use the

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the word at hand. Just a brief mention of the word does not constitute eligibility of the source. Tell you what, take a look at the first source and do Ctrl + F for the string 'Misogynoir'. You'll find it in only a single, passing mention. The source doesn't describe the topic, what about it, or

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My removal of this section, with the comment "etymologically incorrect" does not make sense in this context and the sole actual reference is about how the word "television" is a horrifying new invention", was reverted with the comment "Politely reverting. Does not appear to be so. While I myself

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I see and hear the word being used quite frequently in everyday life and I believe the article here has simply not kept up. All during the current Presidential Campaign, the word has been used on social media to describe racist attacks upon black women and most recently, the horrific verbal and

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Hello everyone, I am just informing you all that I added an image. The description was in French and I had to translate it's meaning. I used this because the main sign read something along the lines of ending misogynoir. I wanted to show that black women are doing the work to end a cause that

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In 2017, Hip hop and R&B became the most consumed genre in America. Hip hop reaches many age groups, especially young ones, and these age groups are often the most impressionable. A lot of Hip hop contains powerful messages that provide hope for many black Americans in the most dangerous

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Elsewhere on the BLMUK Facebook page, in an apparently genuine mission statement that reads like a parody in places, the group declares that it is opposed to ‘homophobia, lesbophobia (...) queerphobia, transphobia, sexism, misogyny, misogynoir, enbyphobia, ableism, racism, anti-Blackness,

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Patton, Lori D.; Njoku, Nadrea R. (2021). "Theorizing Black women's experiences with institution-sanctioned violence: a #BlackLivesMatter imperative toward Black liberation on campus". In Haynes, Chayla; Castillo-Montoya, Milagros; Hailu, Meseret F.; Stewart, Saran (eds.).

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sources and taking them at their word. This article is by the person who made the word up, evident in the lead and using those are only acceptable for the most straightforward of facts. Even more so garnering the proof for the 'documentation to promote' of this neologism.

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The tag is correct in which I believe that this article was created to promote the word. The word has not seen mainstream use and documenting it, especially in which Tumblr blogs and only four sources is in my eyes an intent to promote by documentation.

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does your request specifically relate? It is not clear to me that your requested addition is needed: is the term misogynoir only used "in intersectionality"? Please say more about why you would like this addition to be made. Thanks!

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With all of this I do not believe that this section is salvageable. Etymology is the study of the origins of words, not a rule book for discarding existing words. This is like, bread and butter for etymologists as well.

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facilitates was done, but symposiums seem to be good as is. both symposiums and symposia are the correct plurals of symposium, so unless I'm missing something, I don't think it needs to be changed.

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I do not understand why this has been marked for speedy deletion. Who or what does the article, which just defines and explains the origins of a word, supposed to be promoting?

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twitter attacks on actress Leslie Jones, who starred in the most recent Ghostbusters Reboot. Here is an online article that discusses those attacks and uses the word.

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but this article could still use the update. It currently reads "created the term in 2010" which is incorrect; 2010 was the first public usage, 2008 was creation.

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I did read the Knowledge policy on verifiable sources, that's how I know it says usually and not always. The wording implies that there is room for exceptions.

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It may seem like a parody, but it is an actual term people use, and it's notable enough for Knowledge to be able to create an article explaining what it is.

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term, they will likely get the origin of it wrong. It's better to let this stand now while there is no confusion over who created it, when, and why.

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This page is not unambiguously promotional, because... (It has abundant citations and relates a perfectly valid phenomenon and academic subject.) --

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Music is absolutely a form of media according to the college course on Mass Media I just finished. You could write "Other Media" to be more clear.

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Theorizing Black women’s experiences with institution-sanctioned violence: a #BlackLivesMatter imperative toward Black liberation on campus

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tiarah-poyaus-murder-exposes-the-black-male-fragility-we-dont-talk-about_us_57d1751be4b00642712bd58a

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The misogynoir page continues misogynoir by having a Black woman’s name wrong in the text. It’s Natasha McKenna, not Tanisha McKenna.

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it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a

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This article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. Further details are available

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section actually describes music EXHIBITING misogynoir. By writing "in music/other media" you can eliminate that ambiguity.

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The final unsourced sentence is just absurd (this is an English word, we don't need to add any "e". What critics? etc.)

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and related articles on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

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Bottom section of Misogynoir, under "Responses": "When she facilities her symposiums she mentions well-known victims"

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the term 'Misogynoir' but doesn't talk about it beyond that brief mention. That is not indicative of of usage.

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Transmisogynoir encomposes transphobia, misogyny, and antiblackness. It was coined by Trudy of Gradient Lair.

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the term, especially based on a tweet that postdates much of the rest of the usage discussed in the article.

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Do you have a good reason on why this should be an exception? They are self published sources, and there

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I see no reason to add these words. If there really is a corresponding MoS section please point it out.

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https://www.thecrimson.com/column/where-rap-meets-race/article/2018/2/27/whererapmeetsrace-installment2/

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Google search results are not representative of whether an article belongs on Knowledge. Please see

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cannot access it as it needs a subscription, it's a dictionary entry, not an article." by Tutelary.

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