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be the host nation for the 2008 pageant. The invitation has been accepted and the pageant will take place in Nha Trang, the capital city of the Khanh Hoa district. This is however subject to the building of a 7,500 seater stadium in Nha Trang as well as the pledge of US$ 7million for Miss Universe copyrights required by the Miss Universe Organisation. It does seem however that these infastructures and necessities will be met on the confirmation of the Minister of Culture and Tourism Hoang Tuan Anh and the pledge for sponsorship and funding will be met by a number of Business' and Organizations.
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Just to make it clear, since I think there is room for improvement in communication regarding this article, there is no need for a Current Event template on here as yet. Its use is not so much to show that an event is happening now, but to "warn the editor or reader about the great flux of edits and
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I am concern that it is stated that Miss Belize Universe will not beinghttp://www.pageantsbelize.com/null_void_mbw08.html participated in this years page. According to the following linkhttp://www.pageantsbelize.com/null_void_mbw08.html it was Miss Belize World who was disqulifies. Can someone please
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me to assume good faith and then say you think there appears to be a COI here. I have never had any connection with any beauty pageant anywhere, at any time, in any fashion. What about you? And as for your quaint self publishing policy, a press release from one of your approved pageant organisers is
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Hello everyone, in the Special Awards Section, some troll has modified the link Gavintra Photijak (Miss Thailand) to make it redirect to Gazini Ganados (Miss Philippines 2019), so please have it corrected + check out who the troll was, because articles of beauty pageants are consistently plagued by
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IS a reliable source, PageantUpdater is biased with their nonsense telling that it is innacurate, present proves then I'll believe you. Global Beauties had the complete list of contestants and nations to Miss Universe 2008 and they reported everything, people added the information to the article in
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It has been reported on globalbeauties.com that Doan Thi Kim Hong, Chairwoman of CIAT Advertisement Company, Miss Universe Organisation’s Vietnamese partner, stated that she has recieved an official letter from the President of the Miss Unvierse Organization Paula Mary Shugart asking for Vietnam to
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As a Vietnamese, I've read many Vietnamese press about this pageant and Nguyen Thuy Lam (her born name is Nguyen Thuy Trang) was sorry the people because her real height is only 1.69 and her measurements were also incorrect (breasts and hips are smaller and bigger waist)...And as I can see that
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Why do you remove Ghana, Kenya, and Trinidad & Tobago in the Miss Universe 2008 list??? Does it mean that they lost their franchises towards the Miss Universe Org.??? When will some of the countries return to the pageant??? I don't think that Miss Universe is the best pageant ever in the
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In the section "no shows" someone is affirming that in Chile the franchises will join, for the choice of Miss Chile Universe 2009. This news is of February, 2008 and nowadays our franchise doesn't have owner, as reported the web www.chileancharm.com. What happens now is not clear yet.
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on other editors. GB has been wrong in the past and there was no reason to believe it was reliable this time around. Just because we realise now that it was in fact correct, there was no way to verify its accuracy until the official MUO website was updated. To ensure that the
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For the record, I too have never had any connection with any beauty pageant at any time. As for the rest of your comments, I am referring this discussion and more specifically the issue of references in this article (in relation to your questions) to a third party. Cheers.
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Ah, found it above. Stating certain sources are not reliable requires talk page consensus at least. Policy says "largely unacceptable", so it is in some cases allowed. Proposing editors should also state on the talk page why these self-published sites are ok
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I am so sorry, my mistake. I actually added the table from the 2019 article since this article doesn't have a table for the Special Awards sub-section. I haven't realized that I made a mistake and I only saw the mistake today. No worries I already fixed it.
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Nearly 100% of Mauritania's population is Muslim and that is an Islamic Republic country as Iran,Afghanistan,etcetc...where all beauty pageants are sins!Remember,Mauritania is not a Muslim secular states as Egypt,Indonesia or Turkey!
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Agree that felf-published is ok for non-controvertial things, although i think blogs are still too low on the trustworthiness scale. The extensive and long-term established sites are ok. If it is contested, a 3rd party RS is
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Why is July 28, 2008 the date of the pageant? The link provided (the press release) does not show prove of the official final pageant date. I removed the unsourced claim. Please provided evidence or links to back up the date.
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Miss Dominican Republic equaled the finish of Renata Sone in 2005, the highest finish of a contestant from the Dominican Repubic since Amelia Vega won in 2003. NO MISS UNIVERSE 2005 DOMINICAN REPUBLIC PLACED 2nd runner up
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The source from the official site of Miss Universe represents Miss Kosovo from Kosovo, not Kosovo-Serbia, I think we should avoid politics of host country to destroy the non-political beauty event. Check the source in here
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and I'm not convinced this article is necessary as yet. I am going to delete the "upcoming national competitions" for all those without dates... but this article has major problems, needs sourcing, and is fairly dubious.
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and can be used to verify information. I hope Pageant Updater stop his arrogance and nonsense bias against the website which had been online for the past 11 years and used as a source in many newspapers around the world.
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I've deleted the content saying that Malta will return to the competition because there's absolutely no source confirming that. I wanted to request the source but I don't know how to do it that is why I deleted it.
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First of all, use a dictionary because it is "Warning" not "Warnning", and second you prove even more that you are biased against the website, find a source to prove that Global Beauties had been wrong in the past,
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3 questions -- Is the current hidden comment regarding references appropriate? Is the current standard of referencing (in regards to what constitutes reliable sources) appropriate? What is people's opinion of this
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I don't think so Pageant Updater. This page is quite useful. Though the 2007 pageant is currently being held, but I think since there are already 4 national delegates elected, a page should be created.
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Rioy Mori, Miss Unvierse 2007 is still campaigning for the Miss Unvierse organization to change it's mind and have the pageant be held in Japan, whilst Grenada, Spain has also placed an official bid.
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There is no hidden comment (?). Shouldn't disputed changes be stopped during the RfC? If i knew what it said, i would comment. If it just emphasises the sources policy, i see nothing wrong with that.
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Miss Egypt Yara Naoum was accused of slapping the reigning Miss Universe Riyo Mori across her face in response to Riyo accidentally stepping on her dress in the backstage area at the preliminaries.
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I don't understand why this information continues appearing. The union of franchises already failed many months ago and there's no official information about our national contest for miss universe.
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The Chinese Miss Universe is Wei, Ziya, written here as Ziya Wei. Zi Ya Wei is not the correct naming convention for Chinese names. Although her name in Chinese characters are probably not needed.
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Thanks, I couldn't get it to work, didn't know what I was doing wrong with the syntax and didn't get any replies when I asked for help at the talk page ;)... thanks for fixing for me :)
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Don't worry -- there are no reliable sources that I have ever been able to find, despite the fact that there is a rumoured contestant. Just keep removing it, you're doing a good job :)
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states that the threshold for inclusion is verifiability not truth. As the information I added was verified by reliable sources, my edits were according to policy. Please
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It also says that Vietnam doesn't support Kosovo's independence and probably won't let Miss Kosovo compete, but--oh look--earlier in the article, it says that Miss Kosovo
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The representative from Vietnam, Nguyen Thuy Lam, is 1,72m/5'8 tall and 20 years old (Her birthday is 10/9/1987) according to the official Miss Universe Vietnam website:
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Knowledge and PageantUpdater removed it. Now the Miss Universe 2008 website opened and everything that Global Beauties reported was true and it proved that the website
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Miss Puerto Rico has not been selected yet they will in November. Ingird Rivera is competing for Dorado but no one has won yet for Miss Puerto Rico Universe 2008.
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dutifully published by the lazy media and instantly becomes a reliable source according to you, yet an accurate report on a reliable website is not accepted by
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Who decided that the example url I gave above fails SPS and RS? If it does fail, then doesn't that also apply to anything that comes from pageant organisers?
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01:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC) It is true that the official measurements of Miss Vietnam are incorrect on this website. She is only 1.69 meters which is 5'4
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WIkipedia's not the place for you to air out typical dirty rumors spread about pageant contestants. She has haters but she also has many supporters.
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due to some chinese people randomly change the title and the national flag of taiwan, so i strongly expect this page should be protected and locked.
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for full details. I think though that it is safe to change this information and list Nha Trang as the host city for Miss Universe 2008.
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Any links to support the date that the Miss Taiwan pageant will be held on June 3, 2008? Why is there no evidence but just claims?
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and read the relevant policies. On the verge of assuming bad faith myself, I think there appeares to be a possible a
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Because you can't put wikilinks or other links into hidden messages. I guess I could just put the url in...
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policy was adhered to, it was best to reference using only official websites and third-party news sources.
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And, Miss Norway for Miss Universe is Lisa Marie. Miss Norway 2008 will be compete en Miss Universe 2009.
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Many country do not complete as Miss Universe Pageant long years. They will return to the pageant?
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Miss Czech Republic and Miss Venezuela were also called out for the finals last year.
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world...because Miss World and Miss Earth have exceeded a number of delegates by 86.
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Miss Norway 2008, will be elected at april 19, going to go to Miss Universe 2009.
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was a Nazi-puppet state during World War II. Why are you guys using that name?
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mostly Vietnamese people dislike her and maybe she has bought the crown before.
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help me better understand the posting of Belize's non participation please?
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Where is the source that shows the informations of Miss Mauritania pageant?
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Well... I see "Miss Kosovo" as a semifinalist, not "Kosovo-Serbia"... --
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Where the Miss Malaysia. So late for the Miss Universe Malaysia!
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And not 1,70m/5'7 and 21 years old. Please change. Thank you.
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Will there be a representative at the Universe 2008 contest?
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a reliable source. Feel free to state your opinion there.
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Miss Norway 2007, will be compete in Miss Universe 2008.
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trolls like these from a certain country. Thank you.
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Can we include the prizes won this year? Please see:
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