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32: 204: 340: 560:"M. alcathoe has a very high-frequency echolocation call, which terminates at a frequency of about 43 kHz." Can you remove the second mention of frequency like so "… which terminates at about 43 kHz."? And I'm unfamiliar with bat calls… does it "terminating" imply that the call starts out at a different frequency? (Having read more, I see that this is true… but it should probably be explained for the lead) 65: 143: 262: 235: 272: 552:"… usually reddish brown above and brown below." hyphen for reddish brown, and Nikkimaria's point about above and below was a good one; I pass by this phrase without really thinking about it because I'm familiar with it now after reading so many of your articles, but I think it might be confusing to fresh readers. 951:
Amazing article. I noticed there's a red-link (interwikilink to article that doesn't exist) to alluvial forests (forests near river). If it's appropriate to substitute a link to Riparian forests (which is a more general concept than, but includes, forest-near-river, just throwing that out there for
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v. Helversen und Heller, 2001 – Nymphenfledermaus. Pp. 1159–1167 in Niethammer, J. and Krapp, F. (eds.). Handbuch der Säugetiere Europas, Volume 4: Fledertiere, Part II: Chiroptera II (Vespertilionidae 2, Molossidae, Nycteridae). Wiebelsheim, Germany: Aula-Verlag, pp. x + 605–1186 (in
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Schunger, I., Dietz, C., Merdschanova, D., Merdschanov, S., Christov, K., Borissov, I., Staneva, S. and Petrov, P. 2004. Swarming of bats (Chiroptera, Mammalia) in the Vodnite Dupki cave (Central Balkan National Park, Bulgaria). Acta Zoologica Bulgarica
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It will probably get quite technical, and is not of much relevance, since I doubt anyone still cares much about NORs. None of the sources I have go in any detail; Volleth (1987) probably does, but I don't have it.
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von Helversen & Heller, 2001) im Kyffhäusergebirge/Thüringen (Mammalia: Chiroptera) – Aktuelle Kenntnisse zu Vorkommen und Habitatnutzung. Vernate 28:115–129 (in German).
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group", which is not a natural group but rather a set of species that look very much like each other, but are not closely related. The species relevant to this article are
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Well, high frequency means short wavelength, and therefore presumably better orientation in a complex landscape. However, the source does not go into any detail.
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von Helversen & Heller, 2001, in Sachsen-Anhalt. Teil 1: Vorkommen und Verbreitung (Stand 2007). Nyctalus (n.s.) 13(2–3):99–114 (in German).
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The source said it was "recently" recorded. I don't especially like the current wording either, but couldn't think of anything better.
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Dietz, C., von Helversen, O. and Nill, D. 2007. Handbuch der Fledermäuse Europas und Nordwestafrikas. Kosmos, 399 pp. (in German).
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Ohlendorf, B., Francke, R., Meisel, F., Schmidt, S., Wolton, A. and Hinkel, A. 2008. Erste Nachweise der Nymphenfledermaus
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Used "sequence" instead, which is probably more precise (both groups comprise several slightly different haplotypes).
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Brinkmann, R. and Niermann, I. 2007. Erste Untersuchungen zum Status und zur Lebensraumnutzung der Nymphenfledermaus (
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Haven't checked ref formatting yet... I may do that later. The following should keep you busy for a few minutes :)
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Helversen and Heller, 2001 (Chiroptera: Vespertilionidae) in the Iberian Peninsula. Acta Chiropterologica 6:49–57.
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I'd prefer not to link the Red List, since the individual red lists seem rather confused; linked habitat loss.
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Why are these countries being singled out for mention in the lead if it's in other Euro countries as well?
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Giving boundaries I suppose. Still, it's short in comparison to how long that section is in the article.
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The lead is somewhat expanded now, but I don't think there's much more to be said about distribution.
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the adjacent Croatian and Czech Republic distribution sentences start out conspicuously identical.
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Is that problematic here? I can think of some other wordings, but all just seem to add verbosity.
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Ruedi, M., Jourde, P., Giosa, P., Barataud, M. and Roué, S.Y. 2002. DNA reveals the existence of
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in France (Chiroptera: Vespertilionidae). Revue Suisse de Zoologie 109:643–652.
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s baculum is compared to), so I can't be sure, but compared to the baculum of
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Jourde, P. 2000. Louche est le 'Cantalou'. L'Envol des Chiros 2:6 (in French).
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