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series, and its premiere marked the end of a four-year hiatus. The advert was a critical and financial success, receiving over thirty awards from organisations in the advertising and television industries, and was the most-awarded commercial of 2006. The impact of the campaign was such that during a
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discussing the ads errors in this regard, it'd make for a fantastic "con" argument to balance out the "pro" quotations already included. Without outside discussion on the matter, it's hard to justify putting the argument forward in the article, though. It's almost a shame that the ad didn't run in
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Being rather de-evolved myself it took me a long time to realize where the name came from. Perhaps the following might be included "The name "noitulovE" comes from the word "Evolution" spelled backwards." I also was a bit puzzled by the Advertising info box on the right, which doesn't mention
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That's my complaint as well. Now that it has FA status and front-page visibility, this vivid one-minute commercial clip this will almost certainly be shown and discussed in educational contexts. Why has the commercial's accuracy not been assessed? We are not descended from dinosaurs. —
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Remember that many non native english speakers read Knowledge (XXG), for them it can be harder to detect such anagrams. I think it's vital for it to be explained, in the lead preferably. Thanks for a good read though, really interesting and unusual article!
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This may seem like a nit-pick, but it might perhaps be noted that the (reversed) sequence of evolutionary stages depicted in the ad is partially inaccurate. Yes, it's only an ad, but would it have been any harder to get it closer to reality?
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I'd agree. If someone can find a reference comparing the two, or even listing them together in a broader context, I might go for inclusion. As is, it's entirely the point of view of the editor adding the material that there is a similarity.
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system, though. If the article is to start using footnotes, it might be worth also converting the direct quotation from the LIAA further down. I think perhaps it should wait until after noitulovE is off the Main Page, though.
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Again, if you can find criticism of the accuracy of the advert's narrative in an authoritative third-party source, by all means feel free to include it. I suspect that most reviewers are willing to allow for a degree of
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The note right after the first mention of the name explains that it's an anagram, though I'll change it to be more clear. Why should the infobox state that it's an advert? No other infoboxes do this either (see
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If you can find one, see if you can include an image of one of the awards if there is a free image available. I'm sure one of the thirty awards has to have some sort of trophy/plaque picture somewhere.
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to be explained in the main text, but if people are struggling with it, perhaps it ought to be changed to a footnote instead of a reference. Not sure whether or not that's still done with the
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You're saying that after they drink the beer, they should "un-drink" it before they walk backwards out of the pub? I suppose so, it might make it a bit more clear. Ah well, too late now!
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I've really been trying to find someone, anyone, with authority who doesn't like the piece, but it does seem to be genuinely universally well-liked. The only person I can find badmouthing
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I seem to recall watching an interview (Kleinmann perhaps?) where the subject referred to it as NOY-TOO-LUV, but it's been a long while since I researched the article. I'd have to check.
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I agree this needs to be explained as early as possible in the lead. It's just a random jumble of letters without explanation. A big challenge for text-to-speech software, certainly. --
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Ticked off most of the points. With regards to images though, I can't find any free ones of the *actual* awards presented to the team behind the commercial. The best I can find is of a
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Inaccurate but memorable pieces (and it's certainly well-produced and memorable) are liable to lodge in impressionable young minds and make it harder for later lessons to stick.
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A quality article should not be excluded just because it might make money for someone. It should be judged on its encyclopaedic value, same as any other. If its
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on a journey back through time, showing the group "de-evolving" through a number of forms, from ape, to lizard, to mudskipper. The commercial was handled by the
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I think it's because in the first few seconds of the ad they are moving normally, and only after they put the glasses down are they moving in reverse.
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purpose had been to generate publicity that would be a different matter, but then again, such an article would be unlikely to get to FA status.
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I'm surprised that this got FA status with the table of awards being so badly positioned and showing so much white space on the page.
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Advertising. All in all, this might be a difficult article to get started on for many of my de-evolved fellows.
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Right, so they should actually drink the beer backwards. Never mind though, I guess it had to be done this way.
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