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Riventree, and I apologize. However, these problems still exist. This is especially true about the second two animated constructions and the brief write-ups associated with them. None of this material is sourced (the one citation is to a wiki and therefore not considered reliable) so I can't even begin to rewrite the section. The first two animations in this section are somewhat self-explanatory, but I think that this is a poor way to deliver content and, no matter how well executed, still needs written explanatory remarks. --
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and Greek. Another question is whether "nonagon" actually existed in classical Latin, and if we searched for it (I have no evidence at hand, we might find that nonagon was invented much more recently, perhaps by someone without much knowledge of Latin or Greek prefixes. If you wanted a fully Latin form, you could use *nonangle or *nonalateral. Unlike the word "television" (also a mix of Latin and Greek), nonagon is a chiefly technical term, so I think it makes sense to be consistent and use the Greek prefix ennea-.
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I think the best argument for enneagon is consistency. Almost all Greek words came into
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Geometric Shapes" should likewise be modified. The question for Knowledge is not "what should the word for a 9-sided polygon be?", but "what is the word for a 9-sided polygon?". And in practice, "nonagon" is used far more often. One could add a line to the article,
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I don't see how that matters. The point is, in
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Nonagon, as a number of well established dictionaries do not know the term Enneagon, I think the Knowledge should be to inform, not reducate the world of a slight mistake in the way that Latin is used instead of Greek. -- Chris Ashley
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Since I was a child I remember being taught in primary school that a 9 sided shape is called a 'nonagon'. Frankly I have never EVER heard of the word 'enneagon'.
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