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Republic of China government. And I think there may be a third group where the descriptions are also proper titles. (if, for example, the official title for the premier of Taiwan is "Premier of the Republic of China"). In my opinion all the names are best left the way they are. The proper names should obviously stay put. The other names, describing institutions more closely associated with the Republic of China government than with the country Taiwan, should keep the government's name. However I know there are others who prefer to use Taiwan as the common name. Whatever the final outcome, I hope more thought can be put into the move request both to filter out items that clearly shouldn't move and to group articles more carefully.
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move to made up names, you cant just change some of these that are clearly using the correct common name for the related organisations. If the original proposer is that concerned about individual names then they should unbundled and raised on the appropriate talk pages not considered with unrelated
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as part of a series of interrelated moves. Finding multiple articles relating to Taiwan with "China" in the title and proposing that the word "China" be replaced with "Taiwan" in all instances is not an appropriate use of the RM process. Frankly, I think you may have a point with a couple of these
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I don't recall seeing any law that ban this song in China. Moreover, even if someone sings it in China, I doubt people would actually know this song since it was abolished by China since 1949.
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am sure and factual is that it is rare to hear this song in Hong Kong and Macau. So to say that this song is disencouraged there is just a POV sentence. Thus I reverted the edit.
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