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Most of the RD section isn't sourced, which is a shame, because that's the easiest thing to source in a highway article! Plot the driving directions from one terminus to the other in the online mapping service of your choice. Switch that map's display to the version that includes the satellite/aerial
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The Bridges subsection doesn't need to exist. Just note where the bridges are along the prose description of the route. If you need to source details in your description of the routing of the highway, just add the additional footnotes inline if they aren't noted on the maps used for the rest of the
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The history section is kinda long, so you might consider adding some subsections if there are logical breaks in the chronology. The US 16 article I linked above has divided the history up into a few eras so that the section isn't a massive wall of text and photos. That's also a good technique for
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I wouldn't format it as a list though since you could put it into a nice prose summary. Either way, can we at least have a short introduction into the subject like, "The New Jersey Turnpike has been featured in several/some/a few times in the media. These depictions include the Bruce Springsteen
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or {{yahoo maps}} for an instant reference. Add a citation to a reputable paper map, and cite the two items in pairs at the end of each paragraph as needed. I recommend the state DOT's map, or if the NJTA has one, use that; other cartography company's products are good, so a recent
750:"which parallels the Turnpike" in this case, "turnpike", without any modifiers, is not a proper noun, regardless of the local idiomatic usages. It is a colloquialism in the capitalized format, and that's not proper for an encyclopedic work outside of direct quotations. 821:
song..." That way you're segueing into the topic. Remember, each item listed will require a citation, and even if the prose already lists the name of the article, song and album, I would toss in a footnote for that source for consistency with the other items.
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Last comment, but I'm personally opposed to lengthy quotations in references. They bulk up the footnotes section. I do one of three things when the information may be needed for future verification and there are concerns with losing it to a dead link:
762:, we need a summary of the other article here. Honestly, I'd can it as a section. You have ample links to the authority in the article. If the HQ building is along the turnpike, just make a note of it in the RD like any other landmark. 935:
Because of these comments, and the others, I have to respectfully disagree with the opinion of the review in terms of criteria 1a, 2b and 3a/b. There is plenty of work to be done to bring this up to the expectations of a GA.
871:) and merged into the history. Try not to go too overboard now, or the s-merging will be harder after the events are done. If you can, kill the entire table there in favor of a simple text description of the project. 961:
as an improper review. The normal course of action would be to delete the review and try for another reviewer, but as others have opined against promotion, I've gone ahead and failed the review. --
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RD section. Segregating them like this means that we don't have a continuous flow of the description of the highway from one end of the other to the overall RD section, which is poor writing style.
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In the infobox, switch them out for text, because at the 20px size, they're illegible. Do it just like the Route 700 designation in the first line, but add "Route" to all three.
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Would any of you be willing to help improve this page with all of the suggestions listed? It seems like more work than I thought. I will start finding more citations and such.
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Ok, pet peeve time: in the bottom of the infobox and at the top of the history section, you have the icon graphics for the old New Jersey Highway 100 and 300 designations.
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Do we really need the whole Kathleen Troast Pitney quote? Can it be paraphrased without losing the information you're trying to impart? If so, paraphrase and summarize.
785:, off the top of my head, has the M-16 designation shown in its history section that way. The other option is to make them a proper thumbnail, maybe like I did with 80: 874:
In the exist list, the mileage column should be on the left, and the exit column should be on the right. The major bridges can be listed here as well, like in the
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Many of the rest are incomplete, like fn 28 that lacks author, work/publisher, publisher location (where appropriate), date and other attribution information.
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The only thing is that it shouldn't separate the History section from the Future section, since both are dealing with the chronology of the subject.
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As for the future section. you might be better served by trimming and condensing content here. At some point, it needs to be summarized (per
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Paste the quoted material on the talk page of the article, like was done with the text of the Memorandum of Understanding contracts for
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Others are using inconsistent italics (fn 27) for the title of a report by formatting it as the title of a book apparently.
753:"the Southern Terminus " is not a proper noun. Please audit the entire article for misuse of capitalization and correct it. 655: 630:
I think this article is far from meeting the GA criteria and needs to have a second look taken. Here are my reasons why:
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RD, with geographic subsections and the speed limits subsection if that can't be integrated into the rest better
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I would also promote Tolls to a main section instead of leaving it in the RD as a subsection per USRD/STDS.
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imagery (or the hybrid if needed to retain the labels). Then export the link to that and paste it into
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to not only show the older markers for the now unused designations, but provide a little context.
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Pre-emptively archive the source using webcitation.org like I did to the online news articles on
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I see a handful of instances where words are used as proper nouns when they are not.
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Flow of article is like a steady stream of cars down the turnpike ( that is good).
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The Headquarters and operations facilities section should have a summary of the
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If we're going to include a "Headquarters and operations facilities", then per
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Popular culture sections are general somewhat despised, but I would keep it.
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Note, in this case, I would leave "Services" elevated to a main section per
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Fully endorse comments above; this article is far from the GA standard. --
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instead of demoting it to a subsection of the RD like in the US 131 case.
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There are some poorly constructed one-sentence paragraphs in the article.
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with a caption that explains why you're showing us those graphics.
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There are numerous unreferenced statements throughout the article.
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There is poor formatting with embedded tables ans bulleted lists.
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tags after the citation template, but inside the <ref: -->
134: 103: 703:I also endorse the comments, with some of my own: 641:There are quite a few dead links in the article. 588:All-around a stellar article, and up to GA form! 547:Images and captions are relevant and appropriate 363:Covers entirely all vital areas of the article. 881:The citations aren't formatting consistently. 8: 911:County Road 595 (Marquette County, Michigan) 526:Many, many relevant images, fair use as well 223:The articles passes regarding this criteria 30: 915:Enclose the quotation in <!-- --: --> 567: 543:(appropriate use with suitable captions) 504: 451: 410: 341: 253: 180: 829:A good section order might instead be: 61: 33: 317:All information in the article passes 7: 275:References are factual and accurate 24: 384:Clearly written and to the point 292:(citations to reliable sources) 884:Some press releases are using 648:and is therefore not reliable. 1: 656:New Jersey Turnpike Authority 989:16:14, 12 October 2012 (UTC) 614:Please feel free to comment! 771:In the 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