273:, but that's no longer the case. I am not endorsing anyone else's edit warring or other behavior at this title or the other involved pages; that's beside the point. What's important is whether this redirect improves or harms the encyclopedia, and whether we could better serve the encyclopedia by doing something different. So, any comments?
187:, but that doesn't mean he's wrong about this. Meanwhile, this is only useful as a redirect, and only if some target is appropriate — if neither is appropriate, and there's no other appropriate target, then delete it rather than trying to fit it to some existing article (and protect it either way). For the record, I note that
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You did pick the original title, Hoary, so who else would we "blame"? There are lots of ways of calling for attention that do not leave this original phrase on everyone's watchlist for hours/days, or even here on the TOC. I was tired of looking at it, so, in a "be bold" move, I have moderated it. If
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Good. I rather feared that my comment might arouse the reaction "Well if you think it should go to AfD then take it to AfD already and stop wasting people's time." I'm testing the waters first -- and not least because the AfD process itself is a godawful waste of time. --
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article not to go to AfD. If I may anticipate the charge (hinted at in the section above) that this would constitute "censorship", the huge majority of
English words (let alone English collocations) rightly do not get encyclopedia entries. --
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Hey, let's start an "RFC" on the matter! Not. Meanwhile, I've been MOULD and re-redirected, per SemBubenny. (Taking advantage of my magic buttons again; yes, go ahead and have me desysopped.) --
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got deleted at AfD, I wouldn't have a problem deleting these redirects as well, for lack of a target (update: seel better target below)- so you might want to go ahead with that. So long as
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if not mere coprolalia, so its actual denotation would be rather beside the point. I also suppose that all this would also be true of "race traitor", and can't see any reason for the
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As do I - that's the better target. Oh, and shame on you for wasting your time finding a solution instead of properly debating back and forth endlessly.
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