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434:, both can share the page obviously, but it would make this alot easier for casual readers to understand. This article as it stands essentially tries to tell both stories and facts from both simultaneously, when in fact they both could almost deserve their own pages. Again if you've seen both it all makes sense but a wikipedia article, like a real encyclopedia article, shouldn't require a reader to have enough foreknowledge they could write the article just to understand it. It also might help the page lose its B rating. 241: 293: 303: 272: 190: 520:
It actually mixes the two pretty well, and since Macross and the first half of Robotech are pretty similar minus small improvements for the later, there is no reason to separate them into different pages. Character pages, where other media branches the two franchises apart completely, are a different
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While the writing of this article is fine for fans of both series, a Knowledge (XXG) article should be something anyone can read and intuitively understand. Bouncing back and forth between the two series like this is going to be confusing to the uninitiated reader the article should be aimed at (to
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This is very insincere of you since you make it seem like you just found out about plot templates being used on fictional characters when you have been reducing plot summaries on these articles for months. This template is not specifically meant for film articles.
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Seriously, this thing is a mess. Written in a unobjective tone, and it basically reads like plot summaries of Macross and the first third of Robotech. There's little-to-no information on the actual ship: weapons systems, dimensions, modes of transport, etc etc.
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The first Robotech RPG from Palladium Books is no longer considered canon for Robotech, and was never canon for Macross. The picture recently added was a piece of fan art from the Robotech Art 2 book.
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I find mixing both series together to be offensive, as a Macross fan and purist. Robotech should only be allowed its own article and not mix it into the original series.
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be blunt, we've got plenty of fan pages already, this here should be for anyone). I'm going to toss into the proverbial hat the suggestion that we consider
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RPG. Using the pictures shown of the Macross in the book, I could confirm the beam cannons, but not the rest, so I left it all in a seperate part.
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I care, but not enough to re-write it. Maybe someone else does? Use the Macross Compendium as a source, it basically tells you EVERYTHING.
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no consensus, which defaults to keep, but does not mean keep as is. Consensus was that much work is needed across this group of articles.
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I've found out that their using plot templates on fictional characters or things. They should be on Flims only if they're too long.
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That a major topic can like this can survive for so long without any sources of references or reliable third person sources
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I don't see how "offensive" the article is to you Darkmax. And please, take your biases elsewhere. --
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dividing the story lines and details into two seperate parts, one for each series
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Someone please do something before I go deleting any Robotech references!
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Nononono. I mean the production sketches in the RPG book, which showed the
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