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821:. (2) You **appear** to have stated in a very lengthy posting at the beginning of this discussion that you intend to transfer this entry to yourself as the main author, and as I indicated to you in my reply such a transfer was clearly unacceptable, as you have made --**in my view**--no major or significant effort to properly develop this entry, but rather the opposite--you ***seem, in my view,*** to have made every effort to annihilate it; (3) Also a fact is that instead of discussing things related to the **substance** of this entry--as it is intended for-- you have chosen instead to impose quite forcefully in your second posting your own terms and conditions for an entry that you did not initiate, and ***seemed*** to have a keen interest to acquire or appropriate by completely erasing the history of this entry, only to propose afterwards its deletion when you found that your strategy did not seem to work out. These are the facts. I cannot retract facts. Maybe you can ? (4) Last but not least, the `difficulty in communicating' is mainly one-sided, as it ***seems*** --based on what you have posted here so far-- that your **current** intent is either to take over the entry or push for its deletion--none of which is acceptable; there is no ambiguity about your intentions from what you have posted so far. (The stars ** were added here only for the sole purpose of emphasis, thus hopefully helping communication.) 768:
they refer to prominent members of the organization involved, and/or (2) are consistent with the SMB past and present members' interests, as well as their research interests, and also consistent with the external links officially provided by SMB. Your suggestion about deletion of an entry (that is the SMB entry here) --that you have yourself previously tried to re-"appropriate" by posting only one sentence-- is not only internally inconsistent, but it does indeed point out to a personal, possibly hostile bias of some sort that would indeed violate on your part the NVOP policy of Knowledge website, so at this point it would seem that you are not posting issues of substance but of a personal nature, which seem to be not only over-stated but also over-inflated; possibly beginning some kind of "vendetta" for merely personal egotistic reasons would not seem to be appropriate either. Best wishes.Bci2Nu 06:32, 27 June 2009 (UTC)Bci2
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comments were in two postings ago severely berating the contents of this SMB entry versions 7 to 14, etc., without any foundation, but again this may have arisen more from your **apparent, or possible**, lack of either specific or general knowledge in Mathematical Biology rather than from other possible motives. That is also a fact, not my views or interpretation. Hopefully, the links to the entry that I provided and reordered/restyled so that such links are more accessible to the layman may allow you to reconsider and retract your previously berating and scathing comments about such links. Also appreciate your concern about the potential copyright issues that should be soon completely resolved without either changing history or retracting any facts.
817:(1) The links that I made in the current version of this entry are quite legitimate/ related to the substance of the entry, and not "indiscriminate" as you have chosen to incorrectly state; unless you'd be willing to retract that statement there is a factual basis for the possibilities that I raised--not "accusations" that I would have previously 'made'-- as you claimed in the above posting: ***I made no accusations here, or elsewhere**-- I have merely raised the **possibility**, based on your factually incorrect statements about the current contents and links of the present version of this entry, that you cannot substantiate any of your claims as you **appear** to lack significant knowledge of the subject matter of this entry, namely 407: 351: 327: 869:, which I could have done if I were, as you seem to imply I was out to delete the article. I have, on the contrary, gone out of my way to ensure the article could be kept and expanded upon. The rest of your interpretations and views are entirely your own and cannot be substantiated. That being said, despite my reservations about the article's evolution, consider myself disengaged from this article, safe for the copyright issue. I'll let mediation handle the rest. 243: 457: 439: 222: 253: 520: 191: 767:
I believe that your postings in this discussion seem to have repeatedly violated the NVOP policy of Knowledge, and thus your suggestions may be unacceptable both to Knowledge and Knowledge readers. Furthermore, none of the links for this entry are "indiscriminate" as you suggested above because: {1}
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I am prepared to take your latest response at its face value, although I have not seen so far any evidence whatsoever that you have contributed even by adding a comma to the actual expansion of this entry--as it was claimed above to be your intention-- beyond its first sentence. Furthermore, your
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article, in other words, a deletion candidate. I suggest addressing these with a higher urgency than building the complete and exhaustive list of topics clearly related to the field of mathematical biology, but a lot more tenuously, to the Society for mathematical biology.
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If I may have indeed misunderstood your intentions as discussed above based on facts, I would appreciate some verifiable, factual evidence from you to that effect. Best wishes and good luck (with deleting other
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text or images borrowed from other web sites or published material; such additions will be deleted. Contributors may use copyrighted publications as a source of
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Not if permission is granted by the copyright owner (SMB) for the partial use of SMB information as specified in version 4 of the corrected Knowledge entry.
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for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Knowledge takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators
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from editing. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with these policies. Thank you. --
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Am re-iterating here the facts already presented in this discussion, and also verifiable from the history of this posting:
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Thus history and versions 5 and up of this entry should not be deleted. Bci2Nu 00:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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and its subpgages. Infringing material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored,
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One or more portions of this article duplicated other source(s). The material was copied from:
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and have no foundation in reality. I demand that you retract the above statements.
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Since communication on this article appears difficult, I have requested mediation
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it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see
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