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theological authority of
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way of a link to a new topic; the collapse of Roman
Catholic belief in the West. Since Vatican II an overwhelming majority of western Roman Catholics have adopted the mores and live - for all practical purposes - as protestants do; with little to no involvement with the institution of their religion.
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I don't understand why he has to justify his statement? Maybe it is generally considered that because there should be a discussion on this in the literature, that some prestigious or known schoolar most be quoted here? and indeed this is not generally accept knowledge. In that case I will suggest you
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Under "Background," it states that "John XXIII often said that it was time to 'open the windows and let in some fresh air.'" However, the source provided does not indicate that it was "often said." The source neither claimed to be quoting John XXIII. It's hard for me to track down the quote.
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This is either incorrect or unclearly written. AFAIK Vat II brought forward that the
Catholic Church is not the ONLY way to salvation; salvation can be found also in other churches but the RCC has the fullness of faith. The way it's written, it looks like "it's RCC or you're gone, period".
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The current rewrite of the sub-section on
Ecumenism is a considerable improvement on the previous version, which consisted in a single sentence without any citation. That's good enough for now. Anyone who wants to find other sources is welcome to do so.
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For years I have been asking myself if someone can write philosophy online and free accessible, but it seems just not of this era. Btw. Stanford encyclopedia is not really what I mean here, it is usefull for scholary purposes, but not for big claims!
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I know it is a big claim. But it is fair to raise personal opinion or interpretation no matter how big or small the claim is right? I mean how wikipedia work better than google answers? if we just repeat what other people say.
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I noticed the rewrite of "Ecumenism" is all cited to a single source. It would be better to use a multitude of sources while not, for example, implying something no single source is explicit about.
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