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384: 147: 77: 53: 663: 87: 22: 527: 659: 183:, The Wik link in this (Movie serial) article directs me to the general article on "Homunculs," which only has a passing ref like the one here. The German Wik also does not seem to have any-thing on this film, which a German book on SF calls the mother of German black film style. 08:56, 8 April 2007 (UTC) 201:
There was a fad for it at the time. The talk of "downloading" films dates that paragraph to the mid-2000s, that and the idea that the internet can only support five-minute-films. Nowadays people either say CGI or animation. There was a concerted attempt on Knowledge (XXG) to make the word "machinima"
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In texts pertaining to film serials / serial films, most film literature uses the single noun "serial". It is an immediately understood term to anyone versed in film terminology and, even for those who are not, once an explanation is made, "serial", in its noun form, persists in any film discussion
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See excellent args and rebuttals below; however, since there have been two relists and after nearly a month with only a small amount of participation, general agreement escapes us. As is usual with no-consensus outcomes, editors can strengthen their args and in a few months attempt again to garner
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Strictly speaking, the term "serial" is the singular form of the word "series". Exceptions have been made to distinguish the term "serial", being a specific medium in itself, from the term "series" as used in American English to refer to a television show. Although the plural form "serials" can be
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considered acceptable for this purpose of distinction, it is grammatically incorrect and whenever possible this article should strive to refer to a serial in singular form, so as to maintain distinction while still being grammatically correct.
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and so Knowledge (XXG) navigation (lists/categories) has no bearing. If you want those to be internally-consistent, then another way to accomplish that is to rename them to match this main article. We don't violate
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I have to question the prominent mention of Machinima, as opposed to countless other forms of serials that exist on the internet, and in the indie film scene, today.--
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No evidence to back up those statements, but I've given contradictory evidence above. This issue is not as clear-cut as it seems from your perspective. --
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If you want to go ahead and dedicate your life to tinkering with the word "serial", be my guest. Go on. No-one will help you. Show us what you can do.
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
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per nomination. Although serials are films, the key stand-alone term is "serial", used as a noun, not as an adjective. —
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This is In-Correct. Serials are still being made. Examples are Lolo The Penguin, and also The Matrix.
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CONSISTENT means to handle naming of topics similarly, such as using the same disambiguator. It syas
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after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
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and the current title of the article has been stable for over 10 years since it was moved from
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The name of this article should be changed from Serial film to Serial (film).
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and almost all sub-categories, which use "film serials", as well as
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just to match Knowledge (XXG) categories - that's backwards. --
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this
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That same logic applies to the current name, and in fact
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Serial Film Stars: A Biographical Dictionary, 1912-1956
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I'm trying to find out about the German movie / serial
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
753:. No further edits should be made to this section. 621:. I don't have strong feelings either way though. 455:Film Serials and the American Cinema, 1910-1940 120:. To improve this article, please refer to the 8: 666:). But anyway, grammar rules aren't part of 613:redirect. On the other hand, there is also 308:The following is a closed discussion of a 116:. To use this banner, please refer to the 47: 542:You should brush up on your policies as 562:consistent with the pattern of similar 461:. 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