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What's to be made of the fact that slowcore redirects here? Should the two be split (argument: different music genres) or should they be kept together here (argument: fundamentally the same type of music). If it's the second choice we're going for, I can do a great deal of work on this article, but
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noun. 'hardcore' is/ was a term used in the punk culture to describe an offshoot of punk rock music that was more extreme or 'hardcore' than the traditional music of the culture. The previous page reflected the fact that if this is indeed a genre of music, then this name for it makes no sense.
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Should these two articles be merged? They appear to be used similarly if not the exact same. The articles themselves note this to be true. On the alternative rock page they are put together as slowcore/sadcore as part of the subgenres, implying they are the same genre. I argue that the two pages
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