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I know that wikipedia believes that people have the right to search everything and I am for that. However, I think it would be best to at least show at the top a suicide prevention hotline warning. People who are searching for this may be conspiring to end their lives and we should do the best we can
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guide as it stands, and placing hotline information to "balance" the page would not actually solve the issue of the page being a HOWTO guide. Fourth, there is not "point of view" to even speak of here; it's a page about methods people use to off themselves, not a discussion of why suicide is good or
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A drug overdose involves taking a dose of a drug that exceeds safe levels. In the UK (England and Wales) until 2013, a drug overdose was the most common suicide method in females. In 2019 in males the percentage is 16%. Self-poisoning accounts for the highest number of non-fatal suicide attempts. In
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Now that itâs very clear that everyone in this discussion agree that we can have the suicide crisis line image in the Media reporting section, Iâve added that to the article (the page has a high page view that's almost 8000 per day. Their lives are precious and shouldn't face higher risk because of
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The way the article is written, including the lead section, is covering a topic that is not primary topic for
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Edit: A drug overdose involves taking a dosage of a drug or drugs that exceeds safe levels. In the UK, in 2013, drug overdose was the most common suicide method among women. For men, as of 2019, the rate was 16%. In the United States, about 60% of suicide attempts and 14% of suicide deaths involve
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information without anyone ever being harmed. It's probably safe to provide the information (as this article does, and IMO should) that the three most prevalent methods are hanging, pesticides, and firearms, but it may not be safe to say to just anyone "Hey, you remember that girl in your
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Alright, I now notice the sources I gave are biased and hardly scientific, and after learning more about, I conclude that detailed descriptions of suicide can influence on people's behavior towards suicide, and thus shall be avoid. But I still think it is an issue that this article does not follow
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The article's primary topic is suicide methods, but there is too much unnecessary covering on prevention, which should be on the suicide prevention article instead. Also, there is no need to have a purpose of study section to "justify" the article; if there are enough reliable sources on the topic
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We arenât âurgingâ them to seek help. How do you know that 100% of the people who come to the article 100% donât want the information of suicide crisis helplines? Aside, I can tell you personally that long long time ago Iâd tried searching for counselling hotlines but couldnât find what I want at
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I don't mind the painting either way, but I'm thinking that if we have artwork depicting hanging in ===Hanging=== and drowining in ===Drowning===, then we should probably have shooting in ===Shooting=== instead of in the lead. Worldwide, shooting is not the most common method, so it doesn't make
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We have to be cognisant that descriptions of suicide methods encourage suicide, and
Knowledge (XXG), while seeking to be an unbiased encyclopaedia, should not be encouraging what is usually a mental health problem. By couching discussion of suicide methods within a wider context, we are literally
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Itâs not âright great wrongsâ as you said. Itâs because
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What are your sources, data and statistics on "descriptions of suicide methods encourage suicide"? On Derek
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does not apply, because the page does not give instructions how to commit suicide. Even if it did, a suicide hotline would not solve the problem. Arguably, WP:NOTHOWTO is contradictory to such an image in the lede, because we aren't teaching people how to get help either -- not to mention
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You keep referencing HOWTO without clearly understanding what it means. Listing methods does not mean it is teaching people how to commit suicide -- it means listing the methods people use to commit suicide. With that being said, you can't argue on the one hand that this page is about
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2,250,000. That statistic has not increased since the publication of this book,". "The
Peaceful Pill Hankbook" by Dr Philip Nitschke and Dr Fiona Stewart also states "There has no rise in the suicide rate. Providing people with information does not incite or encourage people to die."
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I think of this from a completely different angle: There have already been nine failed attempts to get this article deleted. Whether any given editor likes it or doesn't, we seem to be stuck with it. Therefore, we should write the most encyclopedic, policy-compliant article we
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Looking back in the history of the page, I am not the first to remove it, many other users have reverted the crisis lifeline in the lead. It's clear that this is a work-around for the "have a suicide disclaimer on pages!" that has no consensus and is currently being debated.
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somewhere else. This article is far from ârepository of resourcesâ for at-risk people as you said. Instead, itâs lacking that crisis lines information (especially before my recent edits), and that information had been deliberately removed repeatedly by editors like you.
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Please stop making the untrue claims. Also, I donât think you have followed BRD. You removed the content that me and another user added (they changed the caption), which had stood for about two weeks, without starting any discussion beforehand or after being reverted.
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Not in the United States, no. "Pesticide ingestion is one of the most common methods of suicide worldwide. It is responsible for an estimated 14 million deaths since the Green
Revolution in the 1960s, when pesticides became widely used in small-scale farming."
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