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respectfully adamant that the language "committed" be changed on this page to "died by" or some say "completed" to respect individuals and their loved ones. This particular page is a very popular one and it is important that the more people who see the example of proper language so it spreads. I am personally a mental health trained advocate who works directly with individuals struggling with suicide and friends and family of individuals who have died by suicide. I have also provided citations.
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Most of the general public uses the term "committed suicide". While it is common, is hurtful to the community of those affected by suicide. Criminals commit crimes. Despite suicide being technically a crime in some places, individuals under these circumstances should not be labeled as such. I am
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The citation is a profile of a man who prevents suicides on the Yangtze River Bridge. It says nothing about the Golden Gate Bridge. I have not found another citation for this ranking.
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fatal incidents, which obviously isn’t true. I’m fine trying to find another descriptor if people think it truly necessary, but the word fatal here should go.
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I can see that the topic is likely to be emotional for many. I've tried to do move the opening text a bit closer to the available citations,
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The Golden Gate bridge's death toll has since been surpassed only by that of the Nanjing Yangtze River Bridge in China.
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There are two incidents on here that are murder-suicides, I think they need their own section lower down on the page.
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This article needs attention from someone who is aware of the recent updates to the suicide safety net.
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The death rate might be 98% but that is most likely from being unable to swim to shore while injured.
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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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The section header is titled inclusively, therefore, no separate section is necessary. --
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I don't know how "popular" this article is, or how you came to that conclusion,
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Unless there's an objection, I am going to move these sections to the top.
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The efforts for prevention are more notable than the single incidents.
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The wording is accurate according the accompanying source cited. --
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is kept separate from the main articles, Golden Gate Bridge, due to
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Surely more than 98% of people survive the impact with the water.
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The Wikimedia Foundation's Trust and Safety team maintains a
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Removed lead section sentence on ranking of suicide sites
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http://www.suicide.org/stop-saying-committed-suicide.html
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Language use, "committed" vs. "completed" or "died by"
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I hope this is valuable to all concerned. — 988:Low-importance San Francisco Bay Area articles 804:http://www.preventsuicidepa.org/about-suicide 748:the citation for the opening sentence in the 208: 8: 793:https://en.wikipedia.org/Suicide_terminology 993:San Francisco Bay Area task force articles 633: 407: 250: 983:B-Class San Francisco Bay Area articles 893: 774: 409: 252: 222: 745: 903:"A voice of reason on Yangtze bridge" 7: 445:This article is within the scope of 304:This article is within the scope of 241:It is of interest to the following 57:for discussing improvements to the 978:Low-importance California articles 840:Simply "incidents" is fine by me. 59:Suicides at the Golden Gate Bridge 14: 391:San Francisco Bay Area task force 527: 438: 411: 375: 330:Knowledge:WikiProject California 291: 281: 254: 223: 79:Click here to start a new topic. 30:list of crisis support resources 19: 1018:Low-importance Suicide articles 998:WikiProject California articles 485:This article has been rated as 350:This article has been rated as 333:Template:WikiProject California 1: 1008:Low-importance Death articles 860:17:59, 23 December 2019 (UTC) 835:14:02, 23 December 2019 (UTC) 500:This article is supported by 459:and see a list of open tasks. 388:This article is supported by 383:San Francisco Bay Area portal 324:and see a list of open tasks. 76:Put new text under old text. 959:00:25, 2 December 2022 (UTC) 901:Paul Mooney (July 8, 2008). 762:08:16, 12 October 2015 (UTC) 733:02:22, 12 October 2015 (UTC) 702:02:17, 12 October 2015 (UTC) 973:B-Class California articles 670:01:05, 29 August 2015 (UTC) 648:11:31, 21 August 2015 (UTC) 465:Knowledge:WikiProject Death 84:New to Knowledge? 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