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be nothing in the lead that isn't in the article. This edit cutout other nominations, the fact that her career began as an unsuccesful
Scarlett O'Hara audition, and ended with a well publicized cancer battle. These are just as much a part of her story. In any case, it was a fairly major edit, and that's fine to be bold and make it, but when there is disagreement, please remember that other editors are entitled to challenge and rather than reverting, discussion may be needed per
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It wasn't reworded, but was more than cut in half. The intention of the lead is to summarize the article as much as possible so that it can be read alone and still give the reader a comprehensive overall view, but in a briefer format. Sometimes information is directly duplicated, and there should
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Should this page have a disambiguation page, since there are two notable Susan
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In the future, please put a new subject at the bottom of the talk page and don't remove a prior post. In answer to your question, there already is a disambiguation page and it would be appropriate to add this other Susan
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Where is the source for this? She was friends with George Cukor and was a pal of many
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