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551: 181: 119: 95: 64: 530:, because it's not that good of an article if we're being completely honest, only somewhat accurate, almost no solo information, and also Slim Jxmmi's article is redirected for pretty much the same reason. Maybe when Slim's article is created again, Swae can have an article of his own, but for now, I seriously want this article to be redirected. -- 129: 410:
Biography.com is a better source. Library of Congress entries are poor sources for such information. There's considerable discussion about AllMusic (45 discussions including the currently open discussion), and my conclusion that last time I reviewed them all is that it should not be used for disputed
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This is a POV and BLP dispute, so I don't understand the purpose of quoting from WP:V at all. Instead, we have to decide whether we have the required high-quality sources, if we can use Knowledge's voice, and make it clear how we're deciding to resolve the contraditing information from multiple
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I'd prefer a source with a clear consensus for being generally reliable for disputed info in a BLP. Allmusic doesn't fit that criteria from my review of the many RSN discussions. I've asked for a summary for Allmusic reliability at
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This article refers to him a lot by his last name (Brown) instead of Lee, his stage name and the name he is notable as. I may be bold and change all the instances of Brown to Lee. E.g. look at
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To be clearer, I don't think we should list his year of birth or age if we cannot find sources that we agree are reliable and we are certain he's not been intentionally keeping it private. See
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That said, I'm fine with leaving it with '93 sourced to biography.com for the time being. If someone comes along with BLP concerns, then BLPN or an RfC would be good next steps. --
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Age 22 (1995). I didn't notice this last time I looked, and it's not clear that it wasn't written in a previous year. It certainly helps alleviate the privacy concerns. --
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says: "Knowledge does not publish original research. Its content is determined by previously published information rather than the beliefs or experiences of editors."
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I'm seeing a lot of back and forth on the year of birth, but no one's offering any sources or adding to the discussion here. Including both is an option. --
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WP:DOB says we be very careful with such situations. He's indicated it's '95 and has indicated he'd rather not divulge his true year of birth.
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Has some well-researched early history. It includes links to a number of other articles that should be considered for references as well. --
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An ip has added 1995 with the billboard ref. Given the other sources above, I'm going to leave it for now and see what response we get. --
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is favorable towards Allmusic. Furthermore, the 1993 year of birth is also cited by the
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https://web.archive.org/web/20150703213819/http://outtast8boys.homestead.com/bio.html
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interview makes it appear that they may not want to divulge their real ages. --
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I am seriously thinking about merging Swae Lee's page into the group he's on,
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Slim Jxmmi is not notable as a solo artist, unlike Swae Lee who passes
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Is Swae Lee mostly a rapper or a singer? Does anybody here know?
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says 1993, but is a primary source that we cannot use alone. --
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What matters is what the reliable, independent sources say. --
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from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially
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Their old website. Probably not much use as a reference. --
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I've restored the biography.com ref with an archive url. --
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