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as a terrorist incident but rather a mentally troubled person who snapped. If it were sourceable, and met other inclusion criteria, we could include a statement that Obama disfavored labelling mass murders by lone extremists as domestic terrorism, but instead treated them as criminal matters -- or that he was reluctant to label bad acts committed by
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Thank you Carol, that's a good idea. You know, there are so many sub-articles forked off of every. single. section. of. every. single. article. related to Barack Obama, that I'm seriously reconsidering my statement of concern. It's a gargantuan task, and I'm a little shocked that more
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Christian terrorism, this is evident by the memo from the Homeland Security Department that right-wing Americans are terrorists. This should also be included in the section. For the most part it should be about his views on terrorism and his
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