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likely to walk into a college classroom to attend a class on information management and see that the ER modeling is being taught there. For example, at LSU, the ER model is being taught in 3 different colleges: the Computer Science department in College of Basic Sciences , the Information Systems and Decision Sciences Department in College of Business , and the Industrial Engineering and Manufacturing Systems Department in the College of Engineering. In other universities, the ER model is also taught in a variety of departments and colleges. For example, at Berkeley, the ER model is being taught in 2 or 3 courses at the School of Information Management. As another example, the ER model is being taught in the Computational-Biology/bioinformatics programs at University of Pennsylvania, Drexel, University of Virginia, and Hong Kong University. There are more examples of college courses covering the ER model.
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P.S. Now I just read (on the User talk:Stepheng3 page) that you presume "erroneous edit by a different editor". I think you can say "one editor" next time. Off cause I oppose the phrase "erroneous edit". I am trying to make some changes here to get a better organization and representation of software
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It is included as a fundamental topic in the ACM/IEEE recommended curriculum on computer science and information systems. Today, it is very likely to find at least one chapter on the ER model when a person randomly picks up a college textbook on information system design or databases. It is also very
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Half of it the article is about the ER model and shouldn't be here in the first place. Also, Knowledge is not for self-promotion, and unverified claims in phrases like "mostly-cited", "significant impact", "extremely popular", "laid foundations for recent work" shouldn't be here. Let alone the fact
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Now I in the process of making some mayor changes to the field of software engineering in Knowledge lately in the past weeks. I have noticed in Knowledge, that there are several definition used of systems engineer, and there are some serious strange things about it in Knowledge. I even started a
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The ER model was adopted as the meta model for the ANSI Standard in Information Resource Directory System (IRDS), and the ER approach has been ranked as the top methodology for database design and one of the top methodologies in systems development by several surveys of FORTUNE 500 companies.
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Based on one particular citation database, Chen's paper is the 35th most cited article in Computer Science. It is the 4th most downloaded paper from the ACM Digital Library in January 2005 (Communications of ACM, March 2005) even though the paper was published 30 years ago.
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The hypertext concept, which makes the World Wide Web extremely popular, is very similar to the main concept in the ER model. Dr. Peter Chen is currently investigating this linkage as an invited expert of several XML working groups of the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C).
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that a software engineering researcher is a computer scientist who does research on software engineering. Short of defining "research" and "computer scientist" (which are defined in other articles already), I'm not sure what else I can say, but feel free to improve it.
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Regarding the recent recategorization of this article: "Software engineer" and "software engineering researcher" are not synonyms. It's analogous to the difference between an elementary school teacher, and an academic researcher who studies education.
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Now I have started improving abou a dozend articles on what I consider software engineers. In all these places I consider a software engineer to be all experts related to the field of software engineer. I agree there are some serious problems here to
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Professor Peter Chen's work is cited heavily in a book published in 1993 for general public called Software Challenges published by Time-Life Books as a part of the series on "Understanding Computers".
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article is focusing for more then 80% on the systems engineer, and hardly talking about the science and practice itself. Especially in contrast to the other main engineering articles in Knowledge.
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was praticaly empty two weeks ago, and (four) for example on Wiki Commons there wasn't a category on software engineers, but now there is see
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with people both software engineer and academic, assuming they all specialize in software engineering researchers. Maybe you could check!?
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A section on Chen’s retracted papers because of fake peer-reviews he was part of should be included. SAGE has a statement
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This additional text made its way to Pages Needing Translation. Maybe some of it can be incorporated into the main page.
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As to your question, I guess, it would be nice to know a little more about what software engineering research is about.
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Need more information about Chen's involvement with Edgar Codd and Chris Date, the inventors of the relational model.
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But there are three (and more) places I didn't start a discussion (yet), but there are strange things going on here:
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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Ok, sorry I made that suggestion. I agree that Peter Chen and other academics could belong in that category. --
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that the author links to this wikipedia article from his personal web page so as to enhance his credibility...
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in place for now. Maybe in a few weeks I agree on emptying that category, but at the moment I am working on it.
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saw the fundamental problem of translating a problem into a computer programm. Nowadays the focuss is more on
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I looked at all the articles you added to that category and they all look appropriate, except for
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I think it is a good description, and I don't oppose the category as long as you keep the
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engineering in Knowledge. Now I don't appose the use of the term "
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category. I just thought (back when I edited it a year ago) that
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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and Retraction Watch has an outdated, but relevant, post
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